Best Doujin Contest Discussion

orion_mk3 · Dec 14, 2007, 08:56 PM

Now that the contest proper has begun, it's time to start a new, official discussion thread!

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Get all the files at once!

Tracks

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Brackets

Bracket A

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Bracket B

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Bracket C

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Bracket D

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Bracket E

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Bracket F

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Bracket G

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Bracket H

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Cheers.

Crash Landon · Dec 14, 2007, 09:09 PM

I'm thinking that we'll need the brackets divided into seperate forums so that half the matches aren't left buried at the bottom of the pile.

Ciao.

orion_mk3 · Dec 14, 2007, 09:25 PM

Yep, I let Miles know about that a little while ago. I think it'll be okay while it's just a bracket or two, and I really really wanted to get the threads up tonight

Cheers.

slayer25k · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I'm thinking that we'll need the brackets divided into seperate forums so that half the matches aren't left buried at the bottom of the pile.

Seconded -

I'm excited; This is going to be a great event!

The torrent is seeding here all night - I hope that will help somehow ...

Ciao.

Crash Landon · Dec 14, 2007, 09:48 PM

I've just noticed that all the tracks have had their innate volumes diminished. Is this because they were mp3gained or something? I've had difficulty hearing the nuances of a few tracks.

Cheers.

orion_mk3 · 11:24 PM

They were MP3gained, yes, but I didn't notice any problems when I checked them.

EDIT: Thanks for moving the threads, btw

Ciao.

Crash Landon · Dec 14, 2007, 11:24 PM

I dunno then. Perhaps someone else can verify or deny that the recording volumes seem set lower than normal.

Cheers.

Liontamer · Dec 15, 2007, 01:12 AM

Will dig into these late Sunday I'm hoping.

Ciao.

Dr. Uzuki · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 03:11 AM

Pimping announcement posted across all subforums for a week.

Cheers.

niki · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 12:23 PM

Can we make use of the [mp3] tag in the voting threads please ? =)

Ciao.

slayer25k · 09:11 AM

Mp3 Tags?
Well, I could live without them

- but to answer your question I'll quote orion:

Originally Posted by orion's pm

we're not going to use [mp3] tags to try and reduce the load on Blah's server

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

I dunno then. Perhaps someone else can verify or deny that the recording volumes seem set lower than normal.

Verified. Yes, they definitely are lower than normal.
I just compared our Cadenza Objection 2001 with the one on my HD for example - and there is a difference.. a big one.

EDIT: a picture of proof - the one below is the one from the BDC torrent

Cheers.

niki · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

we're not going to use [mp3] tags to try and reduce the load on Blah's server

Downloading it to desktop or streaming it though browser is basically the same exact thing, but whatever ~

Ciao.

orion_mk3 · Dec 15, 2007, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by niki

Downloading it to desktop or streaming it though browser is basically the same exact thing, but whatever ~

Really? I thought there was some sort of pre-loading involved. Well, if that's the case, we might as well slap them on there then!

Cheers.

Bigblah · Local time: Dec 16, 2007, 01:28 AM

They only start loading when the user clicks to play, so yeah, spam the tags at will.

Besides, it's not exactly my space, it's Ketonom's and he has plenty of bandwidth

Ciao.

niki · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 10:05 PM

Cheers.

Dr. Uzuki · Local time: Dec 15, 2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Downloading it to desktop or streaming it though browser is basically the same exact thing, but whatever ~

And that's the exact same reason I didn't use them during BSC. Why make that much extra work for thread makers when you can accomplish almost the same thing in one or two clicks?

Ciao.

orion_mk3 · Dec 15, 2007, 06:42 PM

I'll be out of town for the next day or so, but Crash and slayer should have everything they need to run the contest

Cheers.

Cyrus · Local time: Dec 16, 2007, 09:47 AM

Hmm, it might be too early to say so, but the number of participants isn´t overwhelming so far (looking at the amount of nominators confirms my expectations.)

Maybe it would have been better to be able to choose 2 tracks out of 4 instead of just one - that might give us clearer results.

Ciao.

Bigblah · Local time: Dec 16, 2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

And that's the exact same reason I didn't use them during BSC. Why make that much extra work for thread makers when you can accomplish almost the same thing in one or two clicks?

Choices for the end user?

MP3 tags are virtually identical in syntax to URL tags, too. If you're so focused on making life easy (by saving the 30 seconds or so for the copypaste/replace) for thread makers rather than the voters, you need to re-examine your priorities.

Cheers.

Drakken · 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cyrus

Hmm, it might be too early to say so, but the number of participants isn´t overwhelming so far (looking at the amount of nominators confirms my expectations.)

Maybe it would have been better to be able to choose 2 tracks out of 4 instead of just one - that might give us clearer results.

That's how I thought it was going to be actually. Choose the two you like most out of the four. I guess we're really speeding up the process.

Also, though MP3Gaining all the tracks sounded like a good idea, maybe it wasn't after all. I noticed several comments about Stemage's "The Theme" in one of the early pairings saying it was too weak/soft. And indeed it is; apparently MP3Gaining it reduced the volume by a lot, to the point where it's way softer than the other three tracks in the pairing. The original .mp3 I supplied is much louder. I hate to think people won't feel the full effect (and thus won't give it as much of a chance) due to something like that. :-/

Ciao.

Goldfish from Hell · Dec 16, 2007, 01:23 PM

Just for the record...I've NEVER liked MP3Gain for the same reason. It lowers the volume on the music, then the sound effect on the clicking (or another piece) almost knocks me out of my seat because it's so loud once I adjust the volume.

Current format's fine though...Picking one is better than the headache of seeing who did 1 or 3 or 4. Works fine for me, anyway.

Cheers.

orion_mk3 · 01:46 PM

Hm, some real dissatisfaction with the mp3gain! And I thought it was a good thing

If you think your track is seriously maligned by the conversion, send me the original version and I'll add it to the Extras folder.

EDIT:
I'm not worried about participation; it's only been a little over a day since the bracks went up after all

Ciao.

slayer25k · Local time: Dec 16, 2007, 11:20 PM

Where is Bracket H ?

Cheers.

Dr. Uzuki · Local time: Dec 16, 2007, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Choices for the end user?

MP3 tags are virtually identical in syntax to URL tags, too. If you're so focused on making life easy (by saving the 30 seconds or so for the copypaste/replace) for thread makers rather than the voters, you need to re-examine your priorities.

Like hell I need to re-examine anything. It's all basically a copy paste job to slap up the threads which is not a lot of effort, but it still ends up being time consuming and monotonous with just the way it is, and, hey, let's double the amount of it you have to do for a minute perk. My opinion would be it's not worth it, but maybe Orion's opinion is different. Not really sure why you're directing this towards me, I am posting none of these threads.

Ciao.

Djinova · Dec 17, 2007, 03:29 AM

Does one track advance or two? If it's only one that it would be like placing silver in SoTW which is not an easy task.
I'm not sure how you Mp3Gained it, but it's way quieter than even the SotW Mp3gain. Appropriate volume for my loudspeak is usually 4 without gaining. SotW pushes it up to 5, here I have to go up to 7.
In general I'm not an Mp3Gain fan at all. While they claim "nothing is changed", many feel in fact it's not the same anymore.

Cheers.