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Old Feb 26, 2007, 08:45 PM #26 (permalink) of 65
I could make a dupe right now (for any odd number of reasons) and I would hardly be evading a ban.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 08:46 PM #27 (permalink) of 65
This answer will determine the future of Pom's posting career! We all are waiting with bated breath for the answer!
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 08:58 PM #28 (permalink) of 65
This answer will determine the future of Pom's posting career! We all are waiting with bated breath for the answer!
So would we call this Passive Trolling? And is this post Member Moderation? :~)
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 09:13 PM #29 (permalink) of 65
This answer will determine the future of Pom's posting career! We all are waiting with bated breath for the answer!

Light Spamming: Given to someone who spams here and there. It expires after a short period of time. >>>This should help warn you to watch yourself and maybe put a bit more thought into your posts.<<<

Member Moderation: >>>Given to someone who tries to act like a moderator. We have a report button for a reason. We don't need some guy posting in a thread just to tell someone else they did something wrong. That's the job of the moderators.<<<

Passive Trolling: This expires fairly quickly as well. >>These are handed out to someone trolling of course. <<

Welp.

I guess THIS POST is an example of memer moderation as well, just seeing if i got this right.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 09:27 PM #30 (permalink) of 65
So how many infractions do you have to make on any of the lighter offenses (basically any one that doesn't result IN a permaban) before it becomes a permanent ban?

Or is this system pretty lienient in the sense that, if you "serve your time", you can come back and go about your business again?
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:45 PM #31 (permalink) of 65
I'm not against the changes at all, but I would like to note that I'm disapointed in the fact that GFF is big enough to warrant this kind of a system.
It's sad that moderator's good judgment and memory isn't good enough anymore. I know the new system still relies on both, but it's placing less emphasis them and that makes me frown. GFF moderation is eventually going to be led by a set of impersonal rules and not by people who care to make this forum a better place.

Ach well. As we grow, we will inevitably have morons who will contest the mods and will ask for rules to be spelled out.
It's kind of sad is all I'm saying. Keep 'em - the rules. Hopefully some good comes from 'em.

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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:46 PM #32 (permalink) of 65
It's sad that moderator discretion and memory isn't good enough anymore. I know the new system still relies on this but it's placing less emphasis on the good judgement of the mods and I don't think think this is a step in the right direction.
The problem is that GFF at large has determined that they don't trust moderator's discretion and memory, and staff has been forced (in my mind) to develop a more rigid system to stem complaints of staff abuse.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:49 PM #33 (permalink) of 65
Aye, I see that. It's sad though. I know I trust the mods (well, most of them anyway - Drex is a stinkyhead ) and I'm disappointed others don't.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:50 PM 1 #34 (permalink) of 65
That Bigblah guy is a total asshole, he totally needs to have his staff powers removed THIS INSTANT.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:54 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 12:54 PM 1 #35 (permalink) of 65
Totally giving you a warning for member moderation!
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 10:56 PM #36 (permalink) of 65
Totally giving you a warning for member moderation!
MODERATOR POWER ABUSE
You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.


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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:00 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 11:00 PM #37 (permalink) of 65
It's pretty sweet how this is basically the only rational approach now. I'm glad the truly idiotic suggestions at the round table got tossed out with the bath water and we stuck with "explain what the rules are and keep everything else basically the same."

Here is what I believe is the paradigm that would be effective and what I would love to see, and you're going to laugh because Fox News is my model. What Fox has done is they've got a guy, Roger Ailes, who's passionate and has created a model for a 24-hour news station that makes money based on a point of view... Using Fox's model, find someone with the passion and the huevos to just lay it on the line - not in a partisan way, not in the pursuit of political power and political gain, but in the pursuit of credibility. In the pursuit of being a judge, an arbiter, and earning the trust of the audience over time as an oversight to the shenanigans of the political world.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:00 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 01:00 PM #38 (permalink) of 65
I've been asking this forever but i don't think i've gotten an ok answer SO why is some trolling or spamming a warnable/banable offense but some (the worst examples usually) get split into their own threads in the sewers and nothing happens to the people who spammed or trolled the original thread? Are these rules the END OF SPLIT THREADS cause yeah.
Because, back then, getting a thread split into the Sewers was relatively worse punishment than a ban.

Of course that doesn't apply anymore. You might notice we don't split threads as often now.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:02 PM #39 (permalink) of 65
Because, back then, getting a thread split into the Sewers was relatively worse punishment than a ban.

Of course that doesn't apply anymore. You might notice we don't split threads as often now.

It didn't seem that bad, it was more like a mod was saying "ok this trolling is fine just do it HERE :thread split:" instead of like "ALRIGHT THATS IT" :ban:
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:05 PM #40 (permalink) of 65
I've always viewed it as "Okay you've had your fun, now let the sharks totally rip your shitty argument to shreds."

Also OMG BLAH IS ABUSING INFRACTION SYSTEM.

Oh, cool, my yellow card is gone now. That actually answers a question I was about to ask, is it possible for staff to revoke an accidental warning.

Waait... hey, that's neat, it puts it on the exact post that it was used on!
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:13 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 01:13 PM #41 (permalink) of 65
That actually answers a question I was about to ask, is it possible for staff to revoke an accidental warning.

Waait... hey, that's neat, it puts it on the exact post that it was used on!
Yes, it's possible to "reverse" a warning or infraction.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:16 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 10:16 PM #42 (permalink) of 65
Upon reflection of some of the other thread(s), I did notice yellow cards versus red cards - is there a difference between these?
Yellow = infraction, while red = infraction that resulted in a ban?

I'm not asking for any more cards tonight, one is good enough already ;___;.

Last edited by Spatula : Feb 26, 2007 at 11:24 PM.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:18 PM #43 (permalink) of 65
A yellow card is just a warning, and it doesn't count against you. A red card is a full-blown infraction, enough of those active at once and you're fucked.
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:18 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2007, 12:18 AM #44 (permalink) of 65
Upon reflection of some of the other thread(s), I did notice yellow cards versus red cards - is there a difference between these?
Yellow = infraction, while red = infraction that resulted in a ban?

I'm not asking or any more cards tonight, one is good enough already ;___;.
A yellow card indicates a warning (for which no points towards a permanent ban are issued), while a red card indicates an infraction (for which points *are* awarded).
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Old Feb 26, 2007, 11:24 PM Local time: Feb 26, 2007, 10:24 PM #45 (permalink) of 65
I see. Also thanks for getting the terminology straight. I almost was about to use "warnings" and "infractions" as interchangable terms, however, as stated, they are not.

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