[Movie] The Dark Knight (Batman Begins Sequel)

Oh No Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Batman star Christian Bale arrested in London - Yahoo! News

Quote:

"A 34-year-old man attended a central London police station this morning by appointment and was arrested in connection with an allegation of assault. He currently remains in custody."

The wording is the usual tangential way that British police have of confirming an arrest of a well-known personality.

The arrest follows an allegation of assault by his mother and sister, the tabloid Sun newspaper said.

It came the day after Bale attended the first European screening in London of "The Dark Knight," the latest in the Batman franchise also starring the late Heath Ledger as the Joker.

You guys broke the batman more than the joker ever could =p

OH NO A PERSON NONE OF US WILL NEVER MEET HAS BEEN ARRESTED

WHATEVER WILL WE DO

TURN ON THE SIRENS RELEASE THE DOGS NOTIFY THE THUNDERBIRDS

Originally Posted by LeHah

OH NO A PERSON NONE OF US WILL NEVER MEET HAS BEEN ARRESTED

WHATEVER WILL WE DO

TURN ON THE SIRENS RELEASE THE DOGS NOTIFY THE THUNDERBIRDS

thats the spirit

He's covering for Eckhart, that's all.

Originally Posted by LeHah

It's certainly a movie that is darned sure it has a message but can't even begin to figure out what it's supposed to be. It's one of those movies that idiots think is clever, like The Matrix. (As opposed to, say, Fight Club. Fight Club is a fairly smart movie ruined entirely by people, V is a fairly stupid movie treated the same way. I'd say there's still something to Fight Club; It's not the amazing meaning of life that every disaffected myspace user has been insisting for the past several years, but it does say something.)

V, though, is pretty far from subversive. Just the opposite, even -- it removes things from the comic to make it more appealing to general people... and all the stuff it adds are really really generic obvious modern jabs. The overwhelming sense you get from the comic is that it's just a 1984 pasthche - the overwhelming sense you get from the movie is that it's artistic cannibalism to remove points from the original plot to substitute whats popular to fight against in 2006.

"V.." was written as commentary against anti-gay politics in 1980s England. The movie still has all the stuff about the British government putting gays in concentration camps and the obvious message there -- but at the same time, V himself isn't gay in the movie, when he is a homosexual in the book.

If you want to be more exacting - why are you taking material that is rallying against the British Government by using a character in a Guy Fawkes mask, and then making it a movie about rallying against the Bush administration ... using a character in a Guy Fawkes mask? Shouldn't he be wearing a George Washington mask or something?



I think the movie is dated a lot more than the comic is, though, because lots of it comes off as clear attempts to glob modern commentary to a story where it doesn't belong and makes no sense. The comic has a taken-from-Orwell radio voice of authority who reports all the news - but the movie turns that into a Bill O'Reilly angry news commentator character. And they're part of the evil British fascist government and responsible for the concentration camps and such.

Way to be slick, Hollywood.

When I first saw it, for whatever reason it didn't register with me that it was made by Americans so the Bush analogy completely passed me by. The R.S.C. oldboys cast didn't help either. As such, I saw it as an obvious dumbing down of the message of the comic but leaving in enough of the anti-oppression stuff to not be forcing the message down people's throats and I felt that they were to an extent taking the "Don't hate gays and blacks" message as read and focussing more on how easy it is for a complacent populace to be led into a tyrannical, authoritarian state. Given that our current government have been chipping away at our civil liberties for years and Britain is now the surveilance capital of the world, I figured this was a deliberate focus choice, forgetting that the film was made by Septics. The heavy Guy Fawkes imagery also helps as I live in about the only town in the world to still properly celebrate Bonfire Night so I think I'm overly forgiving of the film's faultsbecause of external influences.

To be fair though, my taste in films, as you well know, tends towards explosions and car chases so I'm not really the right person to be having esoteric discussions about the various messages present or lacking in more cerebral pieces of cinema.

The best scene in the film is the shot of Victoria Harbor in Hong Kong, with a panning shot that follows Fox across the helipad.

::Eptesicus::

Am I wrong.

Well you've never been right in your entire life, so one assumes yes. You are.

Zeal-impression more.

Impression?

Wait, so they're not both the same guy? I always figured there was some dupe-account goofery going on that was being overlooked for comedy reasons.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Impression?

Wait, so they're not both the same guy? I always figured there was some dupe-account goofery going on that was being overlooked for comedy reasons.

Yeah, you'd think so, wouldn't you.

But it turns out Megalith started ripping off Zeal's schtick years ago, and basically wanders around pretending to be his friend because... well, who knows why. But Zeal called him out on it and Megalith got all cowed and ran away.

Just when you think a thread about a crappy movie can't get anymore craptastic

I'm really like movie specially Heath Ledger as Joker

Originally Posted by LeHah

Just when you think a thread about a crappy movie can't get anymore craptastic

And then

Originally Posted by RYU

I'm really like movie specially Heath Ledger as Joker

which leads to

Originally Posted by world

I'll copypasta some stuff from the journals.

So, the peek-a-premiere was tonight. The Dark Knight was more about the villains and the city again, the lack of which I wholly disliked in the previous film.

Action sucked, was too music video-y and quite unbalanced, and not to mention very unexciting. And completely unnecessary when looking at the big picture (the story). I could have lived without the million cars -chase stolen from Matrix 2 and the random mob guys popping out about in the end.

Ledger was what he could do as an actor in a very tightly written script. He did his part just great. Bale on the other hand was his own lispy self which I've always disliked. I kept thinking maybe someone else did the voiceovers for Batman, since they were actually unintentionally hilarious, even if they were obligatory. The other characters were just collateral. It was all about Batman and his flipside, The Joker. As implied by the presence of Two-Face and the flippage of million coins (got a bit annoying about halfway through).

Entropy and Chaos 101 was okay, if not a bit unnecessary until Harvey became what we know him for. They were the main driver of the plot and it worked out alright.

The thing I liked the very most about the movie was that during the stuff in Hong Kong, the kidnapping of the plotwise completely random asian guy, in the offices there was a huge aquarium and it didn't get smashed. How awesome is that!

Anyway, liked the flick as a whole. It's not an excellent movie in any way, but many small things make it an enjoyable watch.

Am I aloud to say me and my friend enjoyed the movie?

Anyway, who was the guy who started killing the bank robbers at the start, who said 'don't you know who you're stealing from etc'

Just some mob guy watching over his mob bank. Apparently pissing off the mob was Joker's hobby before he decided to kill the Batman instead.

Originally Posted by LeHah

You know why Mask Of The Phantasm is the best Batman movie made? They don't discuss the reasons, they just tell a story; everything you can ask for is there if you decide to break it down, instead of the writer throwing it in your face.

As far as I see it, Mask of the Phantasm is also the movie with the best Joker. The whole 'agent of chaos' thing was kind of cliched and I left Dark Knight wondering why the Joker didn't tell any good jokes or drop any good plays on words like the kooky-yet-intimidatingly-evil animated Joker. I also wished that at least one of his props would include the hand buzzer, the laughing gas flower, anything.

I can't help but feel that this movie went a bit overboard in trying to appeal to every movie-goers' basest interests and desires, and the end result was too wanna-be-hardcore to actually inspire the feelings of fascination and excitement I had so hoped to gain from a movie about a guy who dresses up as a fucking bat and fights criminals. "Why so serious?", ehh. Maybe Chris Nolan should have taken that idea a bit more seriously. The Prestige, despite its thick air of darkness and tragedy, managed to keep me at the edge of my seat until the very end, introducing more and more mysterious and exciting elements until it reaches a fever pitch and smashes you with an awesome ending. I really wish that the same could have happened with TDK, and Batman Begins for that matter. TDK was too long and the plot ended up spider-webbing in too many disparate directions, leading to an extremely clumsy and anticlimactic conclusion.

I won't say that it's a crappy movie. I think all of the hot air holding it up needs to be let out of it a little. The IMDB thing is a downright hilarious display of pure asshole-mania. We may as well look at it retroactively and put movies like Total Recall and Spiderman in the top ten also. Those were exciting in the first few weeks they were out too, no?

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I can't stop cracking up when I watch this YouTube - The Dark Knight 1966 Style

The shark attack is great, and when he say's 'the right choice' and he walks in on a couple. I havn't seen the 1966 film (i'm really not a batman film, I just really liked The Dark Knight)

Additional Spam:
Just got back from seeing it the second time. I love it when that note/bass whatever it's called 'builds up' when the Joker 'plans'. It's the perfect tension builder!

So, saw the movie earlier today.

My thoughts:

Spoiler:

- The plot because just a little too stretched in the third act, I'd have to watch it a second time to keep closer track of everything, just got a bit hard to keep track of everything. Partially due to the sudden "ZOOM IN" cuts from the Camera at times.

- Heath's acting as the joker completely pulled me in and I forgot that it was an actor under there. The sheer dismay for life or empathy towards others suffering, I felt, was carried across over nicely. I forgot there was an actor and only saw the persona of this madman in other words.

- Gotham looked a bit too much like Chicago, where were the gritty shots that we saw in Batman Begins? A little too clean for what I'm used to seeing Gotham (In other media mostly) depicted as.

- Why would any bank robber be scared of a guy just because he wears face paint and paints his hair green? That intro bank job dialog made me a little.

- A plot point: When the Joker leaves the Bank in the School Bus, there is CLEAR and VISIBLE debris from the hole in the bank on the back of the bus, yet the line of school buses he gets into don't seem to notice anything wr