[Movie] The Dark Knight (Batman Begins Sequel)

Originally Posted by Interrobang

I didn't get that out of the review. Rather, what I read was an old man whining about how society is getting progressively dark and immoral and using The Dark Knight as a vehicle to bitch about it. With a dash of masturbating over the Burton films.

Please learn to read.

The point isn't that he thinks society is getting dark and immoral, it's that society has taken to mistaking cynical for intelligent. You're pretty much underlining his point, actually. "Whatever, man. You're just old and don't get our hip jive."

No, dipshit. He doesn't care about it. He's just saying don't falsely crown blase as brilliant.

Originally Posted by The Dopefish

How this movie got over $314M in 10 days is beyond me. But if this is the movie that could supplant Titanic, so be it.

You need to post a link brotha man.

Batman telling people everyone off since 7/18/2008. Don't be jealous.

Is that... is that a Megalith pastiche?

Given his (megalith's) crappy taste in everything, ever and his current avatar - yes.

Ta for the confirm, brah

Originally Posted by Denicalis

Please learn to read.

The point isn't that he thinks society is getting dark and immoral, it's that society has taken to mistaking cynical for intelligent. You're pretty much underlining his point, actually. "Whatever, man. You're just old and don't get our hip jive."

No, dipshit. He doesn't care about it. He's just saying don't falsely crown blase as brilliant.

You know what you must do, then.

Diss your last post? Ahead of you on that score, cowboy.

Seen this twice, once at the 12am opening and then again this week.

I think the first time I was too tired to have it all sink in, but the second time around was certainly more enjoyable. I've seen many films multiple times, but this one had quite a bit more substance than others, aside from LOTR. Many times better than prior Batman films, merely because the plot did not require a "startup", and also allowed the villains to already be established (aside from Dent of course). This provides us with pure plot, more or less. Not much fat at all on this one, as things moved fairly quickly from one thing to another.

As for moral lessons? Always a part of the Batman storytelling, but at least this time around it wasn't shoved in our faces. Sure, the end speech was a bit of exposition, but it was what they had to work with since the climax was over and done with.

Interesting points about The Joker in this thread, and I totally agree with the Mask of the Phantasm comments. (Bruce Timm's DCAU is criminally underrated by the general public). I just saw The Dark Knight yesterday, and there were definitely points where I thought to myself, "OK, Joker needs to shut up and get on with it." I agree that he tried to explain himself a wee bit too much, but then again, perhaps it's just a trademark of Nolan's because Scarecrow and (especially) Ra's al Ghul gave speeches left and right in Begins.

Other than that, though, Ledger was excellent as The Joker. He's definitely the best "live-action" incarnation so far and his performance puts Nicholson's to shame. I was surprised at how much I liked Eckhart as Two-Face - at the end of the movie, I found myself hoping they'll figure out some way to bring him back for the next one. LOL. Probably not, though.

My least favorite part of the movie was probably Batman himself. lol. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I just can't bring myself to actually like Bale's version of Batman and (especially) Bruce Wayne. I can't really put my finger on the reason why, but I just don't find him likable or sympathetic at all. He's kind of just... there. Perhaps I've been so spoiled on Kevin Conroy's Batman over the years, growing attached to that version of the character that I'm just turned off by Bale's approach. I think I like Michael Keaton as Batman more than Bale.

Other than those quibbles, though, it was a pretty darn good movie. Not quite the hallowed masterpiece people hyped it up to be, but pretty good nonetheless.

I got to see this last week for the first time, and i'm thinking about going to see it again this weekend...

I rarely go to movies, but when this came out (after seeing the first one on DVD) I really felt to need to go and see it...and I wasn't disappointed. IMO this was one great movie, a bit on the long side but hell, the longer the better.

Its gotten me in the mood to watch all things batman..hell I went and downloaded the old school animated and non-animated batman shows. can't wait for the 3rd part of this to come out.

it was fun to see two-face's origins. again in this film, the vilains are very entertaining, but batman himself bores me a little. he would be nothing without his money.

Originally Posted by ninjacyborg

it was fun to see two-face's origins. again in this film, the vilains are very entertaining, but batman himself bores me a little. he would be nothing without his money.

In other news, without being immune to bullets, the ability to fly, and super strength, Superman would be pretty suck.

why some newspapers and websites say the dart knight best 2nd (150 M) and still Spider-Man 3 first !!!!why put fake news!!!only do that for defend and make Spider-Man 3 still first one,that too shameful.

Saw it opening night and loved it.

But yeah, Mask of the Phantasm is still the best Batman movie ever. Mostly because the score is the best I've ever heard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/14/arts/14arts-DARKKNIGHTSC_BRF.html?_r=1&ref=movies

Seems pretty stupid to me. Not that the Oscars is a huge deal, doesn't seem like it should be disqualified.

Batman Begins was disqualified for the same reasons - five names were listed as composers on the music cue sheet, though only Zimmer and Howard get credit.

"That apparently wasn't enough for the majority of the committee, which was also supplied with documentation indicating that more than 60%, but less than 70%, of the score was credited to Zimmer and Howard."

Its mathmatics of credit, not whatever the internet tells you.

Well that's why I posted here, since I knew someone with more knowledge on such would go into detail.

As if a 2-hour D minor ostinato would have gotten it anyway.