[Television] 24 Season 6 Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Enter User Name

Look, I'm not certain about it, but what I mean when I said they were thinking about the show for years, was that maybe the creators, even while making La Femme Nikita, or even long before that, had an idea in their mind, "Won't it be great if we made a show about a government agent who had his family kidnapped?..." and over several years, thought about different ideas, scenarios, etc., long before they even decided to make the show maybe having enough ideas for a couple seasons over the years. And when it came time to actually write the show, they already had these great unique ideas, and didn't have to quickly come up with something. It seems obvious to me, that they used all of their good ideas first, and now they are just quickly coming up with ideas. Some new ideas are good, but a ton are bad.

Yes, to me, I do see a massive decline in quality. The writing is very bad compared to the first couple of seasons in my opinion. The ideas are hashed way too much, most of the surprises don't really shock me anymore, cliche after cliche, 95% of the characters are lame and don't care about any of them at all, etc. I haven't watched the first 2 seasons in a couple years, so maybe the show has always been like this, and just didn't see it(I doubt that). Maybe I will have to get back and watch them again. But I definitely see many problems now, as with the last couple seasons too.

I started watching 24 at the very end of Season 1, I didn't really know what was going on, so it didn't know how great it was. When Season 2 started, I watched from the beginning, and I remember being blown away. So I bought Season 1 on DVD and was even more blown away by Season 1. I can tell you now, if I had started watching at season 3(which was okay), 4, 5, or 6, I would not have been blown away. So I do definitely see a decline in quality.

I don't watch a whole lot of different shows, but one show I watch that have been around as long as 24 is The Shield. That show has always been consistently great, although not perfect. But the difference is, there are only 12-13 episode per season of The Shield, and there are 24 episodes per season of 24, so I can definitely see it has to be much harder to write double the amount of episodes in the same or probably shorter amount of time. That's why I say they should take a year off, and take the time to write a great season instead of having to rush everything.

Okay, but the creators have said that the first thing that came in their mind was the real-time concept, not the story or setting or anything. All that came afterward, so it's not like they had this massive amount of time to work on these things like you seem to think they did. Who says you can't write great stuff in a short amount of time anyway?

As for the show taking a break, I doubt that's going to happen, and it doesn't really need to. Besides, since it's at the height of it's popularity now, this would probably be the worse time for it to take a year off. They just got all these new viewers with Season 5, so why drive them all away by not showing the show? Maybe you've just had an overload of the show or something, and thus, you should take a break from it, but I honestly don't think the show taking a break would affect it that much.

But honestly, this all stems from your percieved decline in quality of the show, so while you think Seasons 3-6 are bad, it doesn't mean that they actually are (personally, I think Season 2 is the worst season, looking back at it). I can't make you change your mind about this, but I did want to mention these things.

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

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-Chloe isn't hot, stop trying to make her the new "24 CTU hottie." She's nerdy and funny, but she has the face of a frustrated bulldog.

LOL I always thought the same, but each season she seems to get better looking, until she pulls that bull dog face.



Don't know what it is,

Maybe it's because she needs to smile more. On interviews and stuff, she doesn't look that bad.

Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII

Okay, but the creators have said that the first thing that came in their mind was the real-time concept, not the story or setting or anything. All that came afterward, so it's not like they had this massive amount of time to work on these things like you seem to think they did. Who says you can't write great stuff in a short amount of time anyway?

As for the show taking a break, I doubt that's going to happen, and it doesn't really need to. Besides, since it's at the height of it's popularity now, this would probably be the worse time for it to take a year off. They just got all these new viewers with Season 5, so why drive them all away by not showing the show? Maybe you've just had an overload of the show or something, and thus, you should take a break from it, but I honestly don't think the show taking a break would affect it that much.

But honestly, this all stems from your percieved decline in quality of the show, so while you think Seasons 3-6 are bad, it doesn't mean that they actually are (personally, I think Season 2 is the worst season, looking back at it). I can't make you change your mind about this, but I did want to mention these things.

Ok, well if the creators came up all of the ideas right away for season 1, then they did a very good job. But I do kind of find that hard to believe that FOX just called them up one day and said "Hey, we want you guys to come up with a show off the top of your heads, writing and film it and we will put on the air in less than a year". Very illogical. Anyway, that was just a concept I had as to why season 1 was so good, like I said, I really didn't know. But the last couples seasons weren't good to me, so I think they are just running out of good ideas and rely way too much on the same ideas again and again.

You're right, the show probably won't take a break, but I think it should. As for it losing viewers, if the show still really is great, and people love it so much, they will come back because of anticipation. People tend not to forget great things so easily. If you look at a show like The Sopranos, they take 2 years off, and come back and get monsters numbers from the start. The longer the show stays off for, the higher rating the season premier seems to get because of the anticipation involved. But 24 being on FOX, which tends to like to milk a franchise for every dollar it can, the show won't take time off, because it will would not make as much money. But in affect, you lose quality. I prefer quality over quantity. I would much rather have 2 great seasons of 24 in 4 years, than 4 mediocre/OK ones.

BTW, I actually thought season 3 was alright, and just 4 and 5 were very mediocre and season 6 looks to be going in that same direction so far. Season 2 was great in my opinion because all of the ideas were fresh at the time, and I actually liked most of, if not all of the characters, cliches were less existent, and writing much better. The plot wasn't the best, but it was very well done, I thought. So, yes you can't make me change my mind, I know bad quality when I see it.

lol I was just thinking that they really should of done a 24 with Jack in China. Kinda Prison Break but without the dumb characters.

I've started rewatch season 1, its amazing how Jack is so different, he doesn't joke anymore. And the script was way better in season 1 than it is now, the character development is brilliant, now they just chuck in random technology terms. Lol did anyone catch what Cloe said to Nadia, another firewall term.

Is it me or are more and more hotties getting put into 24!

Oh and I think 24 are only to stick to the muslim terrorist thing again, I just checked the movie cast on IMDB and the lead bad guy is Fahim Fazli.

Originally Posted by The Furious One

lol I was just thinking that they really should of done a 24 with Jack in China. Kinda Prison Break but without the dumb characters.

I was going to say the same thing. I started watching 24 toward the middle of season 5, so I don't really know why the Chinese were after Jack, but I would've liked to see what happened to him after season 5.

You can catch up with the all the 24 episodes you missed here

http://tv.peekvid.com/s3048/

And the first 10 or so minutes of episode 5 have been uploaded to youtube, I think from the DVD that was released recently.




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It starts off fast as you would expect, everyone is running down the streets to escape the blast radius, Jack is looking helpless but ends up helping someone out of a crashed helicopter before phoning CTU to bring him back in, oh, and Wayne and everyone else is moved down to the bunker. We are also introduced to someone who apparently sold the nukes, but he's already annoying me, will have to wait and see.

This may be way more analyzing than necessary for this show, but after watching the premiere again (), I note that Jack Bauer memorized the coordinates to Al-Assad's location, you know, before going vampire on that one guard. Then the kid, Scott, is able to recall the where Ahmed told his dad to bring that package. What is this? Subtle foreshadowing of some sort? Will this Scott kid be the next Jack Bauer? Nay. He will be the first Scott Wallace. Yup.

Screw it. Forget I typed anything. I'm just in 24 withdrawal already.

IS IT MONDAY YET? ;_;

lol i cant wait for monday either, 24, Prison Break, Heroes !!!

Originally Posted by The Furious One

I've started rewatch season 1, its amazing how Jack is so different,

and...his hair......, as much as I love Sutherland.

Season 6 has been pretty enjoyable for me so far, save the awful treatment of Curtis. I understood how annoying Kimberly and Audrey had been.

One question:
When will the soundtrack for Season 6 be released? I liked the music so far

Originally Posted by gaming

One question:
When will the soundtrack for Season 6 be released? I liked the music so far

The soundtrack for Seasons 4 and 5 didn't come out until recently. I wouldn't expect a soundtrack until after Season 7 finishes airing.

yeh its a shame that, only recently managed to get the LOST soundtrack.

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OH SHIT THATS JACK'S BROTHER?!

Oh shit the rumor mill was right again! That guy's son's actor let loose his last name last week.

HOLY SHIT I don't even know what to say.

Godly shit once again folks.

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