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View Poll Results: Do you dual-boot?
Yes. 9 34.62%
No. 17 65.38%
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Is Dual-Booting worth it?
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 04:00 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 04:00 PM #1 (permalink) of 27
Is Dual-Booting worth it?

I was thinking about dual-booting Windows 2000 with my XP MCE OS, but I don't see any benefits of doing it besides resource management for games. Win2k uses less resources and would run games better, right? Most people here seem to dual-boot a version of Windows with a non-Windows, but unfortunately I don't have Linux, or Solaris, etc. Compared to you guys I'm probably just a casual user who doesn't need an OS like Linux.

Because I have the capability to do so now, I was wondering if it's worth it to dual-boot XP MCE with another version of Windows. I have Windows 98, 98SE, 2000, and XP Pro (old version).
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 04:04 PM #2 (permalink) of 27
It's up to you: if you want the extra compatibility--or so to speak--then dualbooting will definitely be worth it. In my personal opinion, you can accomplish just about anything you'd need to do in MCE with Windows 2000. (You do have 2000 installed now, correct?)
The best way to find out is to give it a shot: you're the only one that's going to be able to tell if it's beneficial to you.

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 04:11 PM #3 (permalink) of 27
Dual-Booting two NT5 Operating Systems seems redundant to me. But in most other situations (Dual-Booting Multiple UNIX variants or Windows and a UNIX variant), it's invaluable. I use Linux 99% of the time and when I feel like gaming I usually boot into Windows.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 04:17 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 04:17 PM #4 (permalink) of 27
I had Windows 2000 on my old PC, it always ran perfect, never crashed or gave me any major errors that forced a reinstallation. My new PC came with Windows MCE already on it, and the funny thing is I've had to reinstall it three times already in less than a month. It came out the box with problems I had to fix. Windows Media Center has got to be the most sensitive OS there is, but I really enjoy using it. If I were to dual-boot Windows 2000 I probably would never use it unless I planned on playing games all day, or had a critical problem with MCE.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 04:37 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 02:37 PM #5 (permalink) of 27
If you do dual boot, make sure only one OS tweaks the DST settings, otherwise they'll cancel eachother out. If you have a 2GHz+ CPU, I'd suggest using VMWare instead, as it lets you run multiple OSes at the same time and without modifing your current filesystem.
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 11:32 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 11:32 PM #6 (permalink) of 27
Earlier today I tried dual-booting by installing Windows 2000 on my other drive. I've been unsuccessful for the most part.

1. Installed Windows 2000 on D:\ [MCE on C:\].
- WinMCE broke. Only gave a Win2k error message.
2. Reinstalled Windows MCE on C:\ [2k still on D:\].
3. Added Win2k to boot.ini [D:\="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional"]
- Both systems ran when I tested them.
4. Reinstalled all my programs and updates on MCE.
- Win2k broke. Now it restarts my PC when I chose it from the boot menu.

EDIT: Nevermind I fixed it. Everything is working fine now.

Last edited by Jujubee : Mar 7, 2006 at 02:18 AM.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 06:42 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 04:42 PM #7 (permalink) of 27
For future reference, ALWAYS install the oldest OS first (on the C: Partition) and the newer OS second (putting it on the D: Partition). This lets the newer OS set up a dual boot, when done the other way around, the older OS usually won't recognize the newer OS and destroy important boot files and information.
When Smokers try to lasso him, he grabs their tongues and pulls them to HIM instead.

When Hunters jump on him he flips them over, pins them to the ground, and rips out their teeth one at a time.

When Boomers vomit on him he wipes himself off, shoots peptobismol into their mouths, and performs liposuction on them before splattering their brains on the wall.

When a Tank throws a chunk of concrete at him he rolls up his sleeves and puts on boxing gloves.

When a Witch gives him lip he pulls his hand back and slaps that bitch right in the mouth.

No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 07:08 PM #8 (permalink) of 27
Unless you're doing what Arainach is doing and using Linux as your primary OS and gaming with Windows (Linux hates your hardware anyway) then dual-booting is dumb.

Oh, and if you just want to play around with an alternate OS in general; like if you're not quite sure you want to use Linux.

I can't stand using Linux most of the time, so I have it on a totally separate computer where it just sits around all day and runs a fileserver.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 07:49 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 07:49 PM #9 (permalink) of 27
I read about how you should always install the older OS first, so I wasn't supprised when MCE broke. I hate having to reinstall an OS but this was worth it, finally everything is working the way I want it. Theres still some problems with finding drivers for 2000, but at least my games are working and I have the internet on it. Windows 2000 uses about a 3rd of the resources MCE does so I was able to test run World of Warcraft at maxed settings. Now I'm thinking about trying this VMWare Virtual Machine. Does it hog alot of resources to swap OSs without rebooting? Like if I'm running MCE then decide to get on 2000 to play a game, will MCE still be running in the background?


By the way, to get Windows 2000 working again I had to edit the boot.ini file(s). It took me several tries before I found the right string.
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[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
timeout=5
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Microso ft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
-------------

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:35 PM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 09:35 PM #10 (permalink) of 27
Originally Posted by Guest
I read about how you should always install the older OS first, so I wasn't supprised when MCE broke. I hate having to reinstall an OS but this was worth it, finally everything is working the way I want it. Theres still some problems with finding drivers for 2000, but at least my games are working and I have the internet on it. Windows 2000 uses about a 3rd of the resources MCE does so I was able to test run World of Warcraft at maxed settings. Now I'm thinking about trying this VMWare Virtual Machine. Does it hog alot of resources to swap OSs without rebooting? Like if I'm running MCE then decide to get on 2000 to play a game, will MCE still be running in the background?


By the way, to get Windows 2000 working again I had to edit the boot.ini file(s). It took me several tries before I found the right string.
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[boot loader]
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
timeout=5
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINNT="Microso ft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect
-------------
Just be lucky you wern't installing Windows 95/98/ME, they use a different filesystem altogether (and also handle FAT and FAT 32 bootsectors differently than Windows NT based OSes do) and would require you to reformat the primary partition and reinstall any newer OSes (so they wouldn't destroy the ability to boot into Windows 9x).
When Smokers try to lasso him, he grabs their tongues and pulls them to HIM instead.

When Hunters jump on him he flips them over, pins them to the ground, and rips out their teeth one at a time.

When Boomers vomit on him he wipes himself off, shoots peptobismol into their mouths, and performs liposuction on them before splattering their brains on the wall.

When a Tank throws a chunk of concrete at him he rolls up his sleeves and puts on boxing gloves.

When a Witch gives him lip he pulls his hand back and slaps that bitch right in the mouth.

No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 12:15 AM #11 (permalink) of 27
Originally Posted by Legato
Unless you're doing what Arainach is doing and using Linux as your primary OS and gaming with Windows (Linux hates your hardware anyway) then dual-booting is dumb.
Dunno what you're smoking. Linux loves my hardware.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 10:54 AM #12 (permalink) of 27
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Unless you're doing what Arainach is doing and using Linux as your primary OS and gaming with Windows (Linux hates your hardware anyway) then dual-booting is dumb.
Not really. I used Linux as my Exclusive OS for a few years. Played HL2, CS:S, CoD, and all my games just fine. Mild (about 20% I'd say) performance loss, but still quite playable. I went back to a dual boot because there were a few proprietary apps I had to use for a semester or two that I couldn't get running in WINE, and during that time I just started using my Windows partition for gaming.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 11:13 AM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 05:13 PM #13 (permalink) of 27
A question, is it allowed have both Winxp 32bit and Winxp 64bit on the same partition as a dualboot setup? Or would it not work becase of them updating the same bunch of files in c:\Program Files or wherever with incompatible versions?
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 11:17 AM #14 (permalink) of 27
Do you mean the same partition or the same drive? I'd never risk dual-booting ANY two versions of Windows, much less x86_32 and x86_64 , on the same partition. I'd do 3 partitions - One for the Windows 32 Installation, one for the Windows 64 Installation, one for all your programs.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 08:44 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 06:44 PM #15 (permalink) of 27
Originally Posted by evilboris
A question, is it allowed have both Winxp 32bit and Winxp 64bit on the same partition as a dualboot setup? Or would it not work becase of them updating the same bunch of files in c:\Program Files or wherever with incompatible versions?
If you're going to the trouble to have a 32bit Windows OS and a 64bit Windows OS, use Windows 98SE and WinXP 64bit. 99% of all the 32bit programs Win98SE can't run can be ran on WinXP 64bit (it can run most 32bit programs not designed to use any pre-Win9x/WinNT code); this is much different on 64bit Windows, where any program that isn't 100% 32bit or 64bit will not run at all on any 64bit Windows OS (this includes 32bit programs that use a legacy 16bit installer). In fact if most of my games break when I (a long ways off if at all) use Windows Vista, I'll give Windows 98 SE a try.
When Smokers try to lasso him, he grabs their tongues and pulls them to HIM instead.

When Hunters jump on him he flips them over, pins them to the ground, and rips out their teeth one at a time.

When Boomers vomit on him he wipes himself off, shoots peptobismol into their mouths, and performs liposuction on them before splattering their brains on the wall.

When a Tank throws a chunk of concrete at him he rolls up his sleeves and puts on boxing gloves.

When a Witch gives him lip he pulls his hand back and slaps that bitch right in the mouth.

No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted.
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Old Mar 11, 2006, 05:03 PM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 11:03 PM #16 (permalink) of 27
Originally Posted by Arainach
Do you mean the same partition or the same drive? I'd never risk dual-booting ANY two versions of Windows, much less x86_32 and x86_64 , on the same partition. I'd do 3 partitions - One for the Windows 32 Installation, one for the Windows 64 Installation, one for all your programs.
Same partition. I only have 3, and only 1 of them is reserved for OS. And I really don't want to repartition the drive.

Perhaps its time to invest in a new HD.
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Old Mar 11, 2006, 07:40 PM Local time: Mar 11, 2006, 05:40 PM #17 (permalink) of 27
Originally Posted by evilboris
Same partition. I only have 3, and only 1 of them is reserved for OS. And I really don't want to repartition the drive.

Perhaps its time to invest in a new HD.
Just buy a 320GB HDD, they're only ~$150-160 on Newegg right now. For the immense space, that's a great deal.
When Smokers try to lasso him, he grabs their tongues and pulls them to HIM instead.

When Hunters jump on him he flips them over, pins them to the ground, and rips out their teeth one at a time.

When Boomers vomit on him he wipes himself off, shoots peptobismol into their mouths, and performs liposuction on them before splattering their brains on the wall.

When a Tank throws a chunk of concrete at him he rolls up his sleeves and puts on boxing gloves.

When a Witch gives him lip he pulls his hand back and slaps that bitch right in the mouth.

No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted.
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Old Mar 11, 2006, 08:18 PM #18 (permalink) of 27
I was under the impression that Windows XP Media Center Edition is Windows XP Professional...
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Old Mar 11, 2006, 08:24 PM #19 (permalink) of 27
Not really. It's missing a lot of key features. For instance, MCE can't authenticate to a domain, period.
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