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Old Mar 31, 2006, 02:02 AM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 12:02 AM #1 (permalink) of 7
Best CD Imaging Program?

Right now I use Alcohol 120% for all my CD copying needs, but something concerns me. When I make a BIN/CUE backup of a mixed mode CD (aka Yellow Book: Data track and Audio Track(s) single session CD), the audio tracks have the first two seconds of the audio cut off. I don't know if the CUE sheet creation in Alcohol 120% is flawed, but I want to make perfect BIN/CUE rips of my copy of Sega CD games (and some PC games).

But I digress from my thread title (not to mention the above is more of a help thread question/rant)...
What I'm wondering is what you think the best CD copying program is. As you can see, I'd say Alcohol except for the above problem. I'd like to see what you say the best program is.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 04:20 AM #2 (permalink) of 7
CloneCD worked really well for me when I used it. Between the two, CloneCD was able to duplicate some stuff that Alcohol wasn't able to do. These were software dvds without audio tracks, and a couple of years ago, but those were my results.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 11:33 AM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 10:33 AM #3 (permalink) of 7
CloneCD would be the best for a simple, raw copy. Other programs try to adjust the results ever so slightly, while CloneCD just copies it.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 12:54 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 06:54 PM #4 (permalink) of 7
Alcohol does indeed have flawed bin/cue engine - the problem is known but the developers appearantly don't give a shit. Use CDRWin or Blindwrite 4 for creating bin/cue dumps.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 01:09 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 11:09 AM #5 (permalink) of 7
Originally Posted by evilboris
Alcohol does indeed have flawed bin/cue engine - the problem is known but the developers appearantly don't give a shit. Use CDRWin or Blindwrite 4 for creating bin/cue dumps.
I noticed something funny, if I opened up the CUE sheet in notepad and subtracted two seconds from the start time in all audio tracks past Track 2, they played back correctly! I guess Alchol can extract BINs correctlt, it just creates bad CUE sheets.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 01:59 PM #6 (permalink) of 7
So uh, what's stopping you from using MDF/MDS.

Unless you're actually mass dristributing these disc images.

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Old Mar 31, 2006, 02:14 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2006, 12:14 PM #7 (permalink) of 7
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
So uh, what's stopping you from using MDF/MDS.

Unless you're actually mass dristributing these disc images.
I use Kega Fusion to read these files, Kega natively supports ISO and BIN/CUE. While I could use daemon tools, I prefer the way Fusion handles the BIN/CUE (daemon tools + Kega fusion makes the CD image read slower than Fusion reading the image directly, this is because I have a slow PC and a low physical RAM, any large amount of hard drive usage greatly slows down page file access, bringing the whole system down).
MDF/MDS images are not supported by Kega Fusion. (EDIT#2)Plus they tend to be larger than BIN/CUE files.

EDIT:
Considering I want to make a perfect copy of a CD, I am mighty curious if I could extract the data track with a ripping program and then have EAC extract the audio, link the two together, and have as perfect of a copy as possible.

EDIT#3: Thanks evilboris, it looks like CDRWin does by far the best job. The only thing it couldn't do is offset correction for the audio tracks, otherwise it was a perfect copy (I verified this by using EAC and comparing the CD image's tracks and that of the real CDs, the tracks were only 12 samples off, my CD-ROM's offset). Blindwrite 4 had missing samples.
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When Hunters jump on him he flips them over, pins them to the ground, and rips out their teeth one at a time.

When Boomers vomit on him he wipes himself off, shoots peptobismol into their mouths, and performs liposuction on them before splattering their brains on the wall.

When a Tank throws a chunk of concrete at him he rolls up his sleeves and puts on boxing gloves.

When a Witch gives him lip he pulls his hand back and slaps that bitch right in the mouth.

No zombie is safe from Chicago Ted.

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