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Old Jul 26, 2008, 04:26 PM Local time: Jul 26, 2008, 12:26 PM #426 (permalink) of 1183
So I just finished reading the full combat chapter. I suggest everybody who hasn't already go do so, and make particular note to action points, and probably readying actions and movement.

I'll pretend I already spent my action point this encounter since I made an illegal move earlier.

Pang, could you do a rules corner on bluff checks? The player's guide isn't very descriptive.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 04:34 PM #427 (permalink) of 1183
Yeah, I was going to bring up action points the next time they became relevant (at the end of the fight after this one, soooo not for a while). You guys don't have any right now since you lose them when you take an extended rest, but admittedly you should have had some during the slime fight.

I'm trying to bring things in gradually since not everyone wants to read the books. I insert things whenever I see the opportunity, which is why Argumentus just tripped over a rock earlier instead of falling in a pit like I originally put on the map.

Bluff Checks (and this applies to Intimidate, as well):

We'll use Shin's attempt as an example. What we do with a Bluff attempt is roll a Bluff check (1d20 + your Bluff modifier) and compare that to the target's Insight check (1d20 + their Insight modifier).

Of course, most enemies don't have an explicit Insight modifier and it's derived from their Wisdom score.

So, using Shin's example, he made a Bluff attempt even though he has precisely 0 points in Bluff. He rolls a 4, and so does the halfing, but: the halfling has a good Wisdom score and gets a +1 to her Insight check, giving her a total of 5. This allows her to see through Bob's bluff easily and ignore him.

With Intimidate it's your Intimidate modifier vs the enemy's Will modifier, but otherwise it's the same process.

tl;dr let Fescue do the Bluffing, the rest of you blow at it

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Old Jul 26, 2008, 05:34 PM Local time: Jul 26, 2008, 01:34 PM #428 (permalink) of 1183
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After you take an extended rest (page 263), you lose
any unspent action points, but you start fresh with 1
action point.
No?

Intimidate seems a bad idea during combat, since the enemy gets +10 to the check.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 05:48 PM #429 (permalink) of 1183
Weellllll how about that

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Ok so action points, quick basic explanation:

If you have an action point, you can spend it to get an extra action, and then you don't have it anymore

If you win two fights without resting, everyone gets another action point

If you sleep, your action points reset to 1

If your local Warlord sees you using an action point, something minor but useful might happen

That should about cover it

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Old Jul 26, 2008, 11:34 PM #430 (permalink) of 1183
Halflings are probably your best choice in that case, then.
I'm down with that. Shirebilly cleric, here I am.
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 05:46 PM Local time: Jul 27, 2008, 03:46 PM #431 (permalink) of 1183
For clarification, can we move through spaces occupied by allies?
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 05:47 PM #432 (permalink) of 1183
Yes.




.... and some filler text.
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 05:51 PM Local time: Jul 27, 2008, 03:51 PM #433 (permalink) of 1183
FESCUE LEAPED OVER THE STOCKY DWARF FROG STYLE

"Leap frog! You've got to leap frog me!"


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I dunno when I'm going to be out so I'll post my move out of turn since Deni had to bug me about it the other night and hahaha

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Old Jul 29, 2008, 07:32 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 11:32 AM #434 (permalink) of 1183
As and when I'm in a position to learn new spells, is there a firebally one or a heat ray one? If it's a fireball, the magic words will of course be "HADOKEN" whereas if it's a heat ray they'll be "OOO-LAAAAA" and I'll turn much more prog-rock.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 07:34 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 03:34 AM #435 (permalink) of 1183
Holy crap! Shin harmed an enemy!
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 07:38 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 11:38 AM 1 #436 (permalink) of 1183
Holy crap! Animechanic got threadbanned!
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 07:54 AM #437 (permalink) of 1183
Well, if you take Expanded Spellbook at Level 2 you could pick up Flaming Sphere as a daily, I suppose
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 07:56 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 11:56 AM #438 (permalink) of 1183
That sounds suitably Street Fighter-esque. Shame it's a daily though.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 10:55 AM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 06:55 AM #439 (permalink) of 1183
Holy crap! Animechanic got threadbanned!
I hope you're not teasing. =\
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 12:01 PM #440 (permalink) of 1183
He's not. Shin has the power to do so and did, but I'll let Ani back in here in like a week unless there's some huge objection. I'm sure he'll learn his lesson or has already.
Ness caught a whiff of Shit, but just for a second.
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 01:06 PM #441 (permalink) of 1183
Added the races and class from the Forgotten Realms preview to the chart, for what it's worth
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:46 PM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 03:46 PM #442 (permalink) of 1183
There's a preview book out for FR?
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Old Jul 29, 2008, 05:56 PM #443 (permalink) of 1183
well, less a book and more of a pamphlet: Forgotten Realms Player's Guide Preview

Also, I'd just like to apologize for not putting more aforethought into a fight which has taken a goddamn week

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Old Jul 29, 2008, 06:04 PM Local time: Jul 29, 2008, 04:04 PM #444 (permalink) of 1183
The weird elemental things seem interesting. But they've left out the minor-action, constant use spell of the Drow: Suck out loud and be emo.

Anyway, I've got the Player's Manual, the DM's manual and the Monster Manual. Any other complete books outside of adventures?

P.S.

I've clearly been neglecting Fantasy. I've never heard of those weird elemental guys before.
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