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Why not legalize prostitution?
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:08 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 02:08 PM #1 (permalink) of 161
Why not legalize prostitution?

Alright, so I did a search for this kind of thread and came up with nothing, feel free to close if this has already been done.

So, it's already legal (with some restrictions) in Vegas, so why not make it legal throughout the country? I don't mean street prostitution, I mean legitimate forms such as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch.

That'd be a hell of an industry to break into, I think. If it was ever legalized I think that'd be the first time I would ever look into becoming a business owner.

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:09 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 11:09 PM #2 (permalink) of 161
Are you currently trying to tell me that prostitution is not legal in the United States?
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:10 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 02:10 PM #3 (permalink) of 161
I think it is but only in Vegas as far as I know. I could be mistaken.

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:12 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 11:12 PM #4 (permalink) of 161
Hmm that "sucks". It is legal here in Germany. So apparently, Germany is way cooler than USA.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:18 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 11:18 PM #5 (permalink) of 161
I personally don't see any reason to not legalize it either, given the societies we already live in. We sell everything, so why not this ?

It would actually cut on prostitution related trafics which are basically slavery. I heard the Australian and German systems are pretty nice, with sexual workers being like any other regular workers.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:32 PM #6 (permalink) of 161
It would actually cut on prostitution related trafics which are basically slavery. I heard the Australian and German systems are pretty nice, with sexual workers being like any other regular workers.
I don't know if that would be true. I think it's still a problem in any country, regardless of prostitution's legality.

I think it'd be hell to get it legalized. It'd probably have to be enacted through the states. I doubt the Congress could getting anything meaningful passed related to prostitution or sex, in general.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:49 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 02:49 PM #7 (permalink) of 161
I don't know if that would be true. I think it's still a problem in any country, regardless of prostitution's legality.
Well, he's not saying it would cut it out completely, sure, but it would reduce it. There would be a dramatic decrease much in the same way that we don't see too many bootleggers nowadays.

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 03:50 PM #8 (permalink) of 161
Man, my father recently found out that my one of my most-desired professions was "madam." He kind of flipped.

I don't see why it's not legalized like it is at the Bunny Ranches out there in Nevada. I mean, at least the girls would be there voluntarily as employees, they'd be checked regularly with their health, and they'd be providing a completely valid service to people.

While I know this all my contradict what I normally say (as my sister often points out), I think the legalization of prostitution would provide safer, healthier work environments.

Let's face it. It's the "oldest profession" known to man - it's not going to disappear if we outlaw it. The conditions in which the person (man or woman, really) works will only become more black market and more dangerous to the individual who is arguably forced into that profession.

(I do know that a lot of women do it because they want to - they should have that option as an American, if you ask me)

The conditions for these people would be a lot better if the authority legalized it - and to me, that's more important than the morality of the profession.

Deni once said that morality should never be... how did he say... governed? At least in a free society.

Besides - the hoes don't hurt anyone. Sure, they may indirectly ruin a marriage or break up a family - but that wasn't their choice. It's the customer's choice to pay money for sexual trade.

At least you know your husband is clean when he comes home and sleeps with you after banging a legal hoe.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:07 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 04:07 PM #9 (permalink) of 161
Man, my father recently found out that my one of my most-desired professions was "madam." He kind of flipped.

I don't see why it's not legalized like it is at the Bunny Ranches out there in Nevada. I mean, at least the girls would be there voluntarily as employees, they'd be checked regularly with their health, and they'd be providing a completely valid service to people.

While I know this all my contradict what I normally say (as my sister often points out), I think the legalization of prostitution would provide safer, healthier work environments.

Let's face it. It's the "oldest profession" known to man - it's not going to disappear if we outlaw it. The conditions in which the person (man or woman, really) works will only become more black market and more dangerous to the individual who is arguably forced into that profession.

(I do know that a lot of women do it because they want to - they should have that option as an American, if you ask me)

The conditions for these people would be a lot better if the authority legalized it - and to me, that's more important than the morality of the profession.

Deni once said that morality should never be... how did he say... governed? At least in a free society.

Besides - the hoes don't hurt anyone. Sure, they may indirectly ruin a marriage or break up a family - but that wasn't their choice. It's the customer's choice to pay money for sexual trade.

At least you know your husband is clean when he comes home and sleeps with you after banging a legal hoe.
I think it was morality should never be legislated. But yeah, I'm with you on this one. Surprise, surprise. It cuts down on crime, it cuts down on STDs, it cuts down on abuse of women. There's an endless stream of interesting reasons to do this. In Sweden there are women who specialize in people who have social phobias, or are in mourning at the loss of a wife, or have had traumatic sexual experiences. They have degrees in psychoanalysis, or psychiatry and they use sex as a therapeutic method of treatment. Some really interesting things that come about when you get past the factor of "you're paying someone to fuck them." The only reason for it to be illegal is because it makes people feel yucky, like outlawing gay marriage. It's a stupid law with no upside to it. Hell, economics alone, think of how much money you can rake in if you actually tax cunt.


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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:10 PM #10 (permalink) of 161
Hell, economics alone, think of how much money you can rake in if you actually tax cunt.
Well, golly. That's a little sexist. Why not tax dick too? That way, you cover your field entirely! Think of the profit!

(Gay people need sex too ;_; )
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:13 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 04:13 PM 3 #11 (permalink) of 161
You can tax every ol' piece of the human body if it's legal. Hell, tax fisting. Tax it all. Get you some socialized health care to pay for the surgery to repair the vaginal tearing and tax double-fisting. It's all good now, kids.


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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:20 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 03:20 PM #12 (permalink) of 161
This is no fun if everyone agrees. ;___;
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:25 PM #13 (permalink) of 161
This is no fun if everyone agrees. ;___;
Give it a little time. I am sure a conservative will come in and call us all horrible, immoral people shortly.

Maybe.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:27 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 03:27 PM #14 (permalink) of 161
I doubt it. Not with two powerhousers coming in and already stating their support in legalizing prostitution.

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:28 PM #15 (permalink) of 161
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In hiding after 2 infractions, likely.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:31 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 04:31 PM #16 (permalink) of 161
In hiding after 2 infractions, likely.
Where have you kids been? That guy got the heave ho for trolling and advertising.


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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:35 PM #17 (permalink) of 161
There was recently a debate in the news about this recently.

With the Olympic games coming to Vancouver BC in 2010, there was group of people in the *consort* business that wanted to buy some downtown building to regulate the business. They stated that with all the soon to be business coming in *from athletes especially*, they wanted to have a base of operations so they could have proper facilities, which would also provide proper book keeping, protection for the employee's (health wise and physically, as they could hire bouncers etc..), and just overall make things better.

Their biggest opposition however was not the government, but various Feminism groups who are outright against it, stating the profession demeans women (no group up in arms for the male Gigaloo's tough), and hurts family values etc..

These groups seem to overlook the fact that even if they outlaw this, the women are still going to be doing the job, just in a much less safe way. At least making it legal will as previously said, make it taxable and have it so it can contribute more to the economy. It also lowers rape crimes as well.
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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:37 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 03:37 PM #18 (permalink) of 161
From an economic and safety viewpoint, legalization of Prostitution (Or Sex for Money) makes sense: Currently any illegal prostitution is tax-free money, meaning the government will never directly get its cut of that $20 you gave to 'Sally' for a quickie.

So let's say we open official and well-indicated places for consensual adults to get Sex for Payment. (Consort Business as it would be called, has a nice right to it):

First Effect: For one thing, Pimps and Street-walkers would soon be driven from said streets. There would not only be competition, but competition which would not be barred down by Police.

Second effect: These 'Ranches' or whatever they decide to call them, would pay taxes as any other business would, so the government can get a slice of that. The business-owners and sex workers themselves would also get a cut (And to keep costs down for the customer, I imagine the workers would be salaried and get most of the money from Tips, as do Waitresses, Pizza Delivery people, and so on).

Third Effect: Sex Workers would be protected from violence and have access to (probably) great Health Plans, as well as required screenings for STDs and the like. Meaning the chance of sleeping with an infected person goes way down.

Fourth Effect: Infidelity and Rape crimes would probably go down. If some idiot really wants to get screwed, he can pay out the $100 an hour and be done with it, instead of going out and harming some innocent woman (or man!).

Sorry Divest, but I support this. The only real opposition is from a moral standpoint, and even then, one could argue that opponents would rather have Consorts be harmed rather then staying safe. The thing is, when people think of 'Legalization of Prostitution', the mental image is that now the street-walkers will continue forth, but with no penalty. If supporters want even moderates to support the idea, they need to drill into the voters mind that Legalization = Ranch-Style Bordellos, and that Street-Walkers would now be extra-prosecuted, as there is now a legal and safer alternative. However since its a good idea with lots of Pros and Few cons, the current congress and/or administration will vehemently oppose it, since they seem to oppose ANY good idea lately.

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Old Dec 21, 2007, 04:42 PM Local time: Dec 21, 2007, 05:42 PM #19 (permalink) of 161
I am a conservative, I am picketing this thread.



But anyways, if they do make prositution legal, they will need HEAVY infulence in the midwest. Seriously, fucking anything east of Nevada, and everything West of Virginia is completely fuckboring.