China may change 'one child' population policy

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So China may be stopping the one child policy, thanks to the policy there would have been 400 millon more people in the country.

Stopping the policy would mean less forced abortions and help stop the gender imbalance because of the old tradion of baby boys are better the girls.

However it would mean that the population will climb again, there is already more then 1 billion people there, is there really enough room and resources for more?

There is definitely no room for more. They should have a policy of no kids for 20 years. The population is still growing and if the one child policy remains, the population will still increase until the year 2050, then start seeing a decline.

If it wasn't for Mao Zedong and his "have as many babies as you can" policy 40 years ago, the population of China would be about half of what it is.... grrr...

Originally Posted by The Wise Vivi

They should have a policy of no kids for 20 years.

You propose to eliminate an entire generation of Chinese?

Congratulations. You've just come up with what may be the second most vile idea this board has ever seen.

Really? Wicked. I guess its my first time being insensitively cruel. Strike one I guess.

Seriously though, they need to stick with the one child rule, otherwise things will get worse in terms of resource restraints, and room for population.

The world could handle a lot more people. The biggest problem is that one human takes up space and resources, which limits the amount of sustainable population. So, as a result, the world cannot hold as much. If China were to remove their limit of one child, it would further strain the world demand as a whole.

In terms of interest, what would be the most vile idea so far?

Night Phoenix's first post?

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You know, the whole overpopulation issue is vexed. You understand one could fit the entire world population the 5 largest U.S. states and it'd still be cozier than Japan? With that in mind, the problem seems to be structures and institutions, not people.

The 1 child policy was a result of Deng Xiaoping's mistaken conclusion that low birthrates are a cause of affluence instead of the result of it. The issue has never been about overpopulation for China in any realistic terms. Quite simply, the hundreds of millions of Chinese that could have been alive today (or at least exist within the system) are a resource lost to China forever. The whole policy has been criminally stupid from the get-go.

I'm not quite familiar with the particulars of this policy. What if a family happens to conceive a second child? Is it aborted, or are there other consequences for the entire family?

As for as I know, if the government finds out about having two kids, you have to pay the government a sum of money, and possibly other requirements.

There is a penalty fee for having a second or third child, but rich parents have the kids anyway knowing that they can afford the fee.

Some areas can have two children, with the first child anything goes, but if it is a girl, they often do what ever it takes to make sure the second one is a boy by having a abortion. Some parents will have the birth at home so that it will go unreported and abandon the girl somewhere and then try again.

China needs to grow out of the 'boys are better' stage.

That's hard to do for a country with a vast amount of farmers, but the boys before girls mentality is highly overstated, and isn't nearly as bad as it is in India, which despite having no formal birth limit policy still has a gender discrepancy.

The gender discrepancy on paper is solely the fault of the CCP.

So, wait. What happens if they have twins...? Loophole? Or coin toss to see which you get to keep?

Contrary to reports, a lot of Chinese actually do love their children! Who knows, they might even keep both twins!

I remember speaking to a fellow in high school about this who was from China. He mentioned that this law is pretty easily ignored by far-off rural folk who sometimes have children that don't even end up on paperwork. This is from one guy's point of view, but he was a pretty sharp fella.

Originally Posted by Lord Styphon

You propose to eliminate an entire generation of Chinese?

Congratulations. You've just come up with what may be the second most vile idea this board has ever seen.

Second most vile? Which idea took the top?

In any case the times when I've visited China and I've met with friends and family I've noticed that despite what people say about bending the rules most families do sport one child. And if anything I've seen more daughters than sons thus far, the whole 'boys are better than girls' thing I'm told is bit of a previous generation thing and the younger generation doesn't hold such silly ideas. Then again I don't exactly have numbers to back up this anecdotal account so the truth still maybe otherwise.

Originally Posted by Yggdrasil

And if anything I've seen more daughters than sons thus far, the whole 'boys are better than girls' thing I'm told is bit of a previous generation thing and the younger generation doesn't hold such silly ideas. Then again I don't exactly have numbers to back up this anecdotal account so the truth still maybe otherwise.

Most of the people who are in the mind-set of 'boys are better then girls' live in the far-off rural areas, it dosn't suprise me the city folk and the younger generation know better.

I have always wanted to say to the older-rural folks "If everyone had sons, who are the straight ones gonna marry? Daughters are important if you want your family to continue"

Originally Posted by Yggdrasil

Second most vile? Which idea took the top?

I'm inclined to believe that it was something put forth by Simply. That's just a guess though.

The issue is closed. China has decided not to change their one-child population policy.

Man, that's a hell of a demographic time bomb they're gonna face down the line. Not to mention they're gonna be a nation full of old fogies and sexually frustrated men

Originally Posted by Lord Styphon

You propose to eliminate an entire generation of Chinese?

Congratulations. You've just come up with what may be the second most vile idea this board has ever seen.

Eugenics: The cure for the common man.

A better idea would be to simply allow them to overpopulate and then place the Russian and American military on all their land-based borders to prevent a mass exodus.