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Old Jul 20, 2008, 04:50 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 02:50 PM #51 (permalink) of 190


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Old Jul 20, 2008, 05:10 PM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 12:10 AM #52 (permalink) of 190
Do you know rape rate for US?

In every two minutes one woman is raped, and then compare it to islamic states.

My friend, while i believe that none of you have the personal experience to even be allowed to talk about this whole immigration and religion abuse topic, this sentence right here puts your credibility so far down that even Ron Jeremy's dick wont reach you.


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Old Jul 20, 2008, 05:27 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 04:27 PM #53 (permalink) of 190
That may be the funniest damn thing I've ever read on here. "NOTHING BAD HAPPENS IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES."

Hilarious.

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 05:32 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 05:32 PM 2 #54 (permalink) of 190
It doesn't count as rape if there's a mercy killing.
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Old Jul 20, 2008, 05:35 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 05:35 PM #55 (permalink) of 190
They call it "restoring the honor of her family".

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Old Jul 20, 2008, 10:13 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 09:13 PM #56 (permalink) of 190
Read: selectively; ultraconservatively.
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really? What other senses can we make out of ''a man lying with a man as with a woman is an abomination; they shoudl be killed''? and the several passages calling for the utter massacre of people not believing in the right god? and the ones calling for the women to be quiet and submit to their husbands? and, in the kuran, the ones calling for a hloy war against infidels?

And, although i know not MOST muslims are likely to blow themselves up, there are still far too many people willing to kill in the name of god.

Finally, if what i read is true, most terrorists and suicide bombers are fairly educated; dfoesn't bin-laden have an engineering degree?
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Old Jul 20, 2008, 11:02 PM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 09:02 AM 1 #57 (permalink) of 190
My friend, while i believe that none of you have the personal experience to even be allowed to talk about this whole immigration and religion abuse topic, this sentence right here puts your credibility so far down that even Ron Jeremy's dick wont reach you.
Al Jazeera English - Asia-Pacific - Pope to apologise for sex scandals

"The group says more than 50 Australian """""priests"""""" and brothers have been prosecuted for sexual crimes."


Al Jazeera English - Asia-Pacific - Pope meets sex abuse victims

"Pope to apologise for "sex" scandal"

Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NationMaster - Rapes (per capita) (most recent) by country





So even the holy places aren't safe, in countries that are sane and developed, where literacy rate is even high.

what makes one animal then?


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Old Jul 20, 2008, 11:17 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 11:17 PM 3 #58 (permalink) of 190
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Old Jul 20, 2008, 11:17 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2008, 11:17 PM 5 #59 (permalink) of 190
Sexninja, I know you're trying to defend Islam in your posts here, and I can understand that, but the best way for you to defend Islam from here on out is to not say anything else. You see, when you say things, the things you say are stupid, and do nothing to help Islam in any way. Nor does it help anything else, other than reinforcing the impression that you're an idiot. In fact, your saying things serves to tarnish Islam by association with you.

So if you truly care about Islam, turn around, walk out of the thread, and never come back.
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Old Jul 20, 2008, 11:20 PM #60 (permalink) of 190
really? What other senses can we make out of ''a man lying with a man as with a woman is an abomination; they shoudl be killed''? and the several passages calling for the utter massacre of people not believing in the right god? and the ones calling for the women to be quiet and submit to their husbands? and, in the kuran, the ones calling for a hloy war against infidels?
Yes. Those passages do exist. They comprise a small minority of the total text. That is what is meant by "selectively".
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Old Jul 21, 2008, 12:54 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 10:54 AM #61 (permalink) of 190
Sexninja, I know you're trying to defend Islam in your posts here, and I can understand that, but the best way for you to defend Islam from here on out is to not say anything else. You see, when you say things, the things you say are stupid, and do nothing to help Islam in any way. Nor does it help anything else, other than reinforcing the impression that you're an idiot. In fact, your saying things serves to tarnish Islam by association with you.

So if you truly care about Islam, turn around, walk out of the thread, and never come back.

Who is defending, merely pointing out that first rectify flaws in your own religion and your own society before sweating for others.
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Old Jul 21, 2008, 01:07 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 02:07 PM #62 (permalink) of 190
Oh, nobody's sweating at all, pointing out that your views are helplessly ignorant and mind-numbingly retarded is a pretty simple thing to do.
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Old Jul 21, 2008, 01:10 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 12:10 AM #63 (permalink) of 190
Blah is right, and I'll add to it:

Christianity isn't a state. We don't have a christian state. I'm not religious, a lot of people arguing with you aren't religious. We're people who have a problem with a lot of religion, we're just able to spot the especially idiotic ones from a non-biased perspective.

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Old Jul 21, 2008, 02:46 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 12:46 AM #64 (permalink) of 190
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Who is defending, merely pointing out that first rectify flaws in your own religion and your own society before sweating for others.
What would you do if it turns out a bunch of us are Islamic?


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Old Jul 21, 2008, 05:10 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 11:10 AM #65 (permalink) of 190
really? What other senses can we make out of ''a man lying with a man as with a woman is an abomination; they shoudl be killed''? and the several passages calling for the utter massacre of people not believing in the right god? and the ones calling for the women to be quiet and submit to their husbands?
There's a fair old amount of that shit in the Old Testament too. Remember how God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah just because the guys there enjoyed a bit of bum fun and swinging now and then?

Smiting and massacres were the in thing back in the days when most religious texts were written and the authors would obviously want to play to their audience. Suggesting that God would like you to enter into a civilised discourse and schedule some meetings to reconcile your differences with your enemies to a 12th Century warlord is unlikely to have got you a new monastry so the religious types spread happy tales of fire and brimstone. Even when the Christians revised their policy with the happy-clapping New Testament, they still left in the old stuff and still managed to engineer an excuse to pillaging in the Holy Lands. I'm sure the percentage of Muslims who choose to interpret the writings of the Qu'ran as an excuse to blow people up and shit is comperable to the percentage of Christians who use the Bible as an excuse to set fire to gays.
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Old Jul 21, 2008, 09:22 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 04:22 PM #66 (permalink) of 190
Al Jazeera English - Asia-Pacific - Pope to apologise for sex scandals

"The group says more than 50 Australian """""priests"""""" and brothers have been prosecuted for sexual crimes."


Al Jazeera English - Asia-Pacific - Pope meets sex abuse victims

"Pope to apologise for "sex" scandal"

Catholic sex abuse cases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NationMaster - Rapes (per capita) (most recent) by country





So even the holy places aren't safe, in countries that are sane and developed, where literacy rate is even high.

what makes one animal then?


Church is scary place , no?
Not safe anymore, watch out for priests.
I guess you are trying to do a nice thing, but you should know that "rape" doesnt really mean anything in middle east. Women that go to the police without their husband very very rarely get any help. If anything they'll just go home, get beaten and then cook food.

Just because you live in Iran, doesnt make you a full blown muslim. So even if Islam is peacefull it doesn't suddenly make everyone super nice and nice.

Im not talking out of my ass either, my parents immigrated to Sweden, I grew up facing everyday racism and never fitting in. Later I moved back to Iran, lived in the ghettos of Tehran, saw the good and the bad. The hateful and the friendly.

So please, stop trying to defend something you know shit about, you are embaressing us.


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Old Jul 21, 2008, 09:44 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2008, 10:44 AM #67 (permalink) of 190
Every religion tells us to be good and kind to others. Of course there are times when people wage war to each other for the sake of their religion. Which religion is right? Which one is wrong?

For me, the people are always right. War are wage mostly because the leader 'wants' to carve his name in the history book. Glory. Never in the heart of people wanting to kill each other.

If there is a person ask you to hurt somebody. Ignore this person. If religion ask you to kill another, ignore this religion. We do not need casualty in every conflicts. I believe that people can avoid war through negotiation only if the representatives are thinking for the sake of the people not for the sake of one race.

Nowadays, it seems like Islam is not a religion of peace but is it true? I never see an Islamic country suddenly attack another country. Islamic country are passive. Counterattack after being attacked but then labeled as the one who attacks first. This I do not understand.

See Israel who attacks Palestine first. See America who attacks Iraq first. Most of us still remember 9/11, strangely; no Israeli were hurt in that accident. Why is that?
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Old Jul 21, 2008, 09:51 PM Local time: Jul 21, 2008, 09:51 PM #68 (permalink) of 190
I never see an Islamic country suddenly attack another country.
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According to this, you're old enough to have seen Iraq "suddenly attack" Kuwait.
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