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 Member 20358 Level 12.65 Feb 2007 
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Oh, and Lord'sSword, I'm on your side. Don't get me wrong, I'm a theological conservative. |
Member 24 Level 48.46 Mar 2006
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There are theologians out there that know it backwards and forwards, but are not Christian. |
Member 20358 Level 12.65 Feb 2007
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If you're looking for specific comments, I'd refer you to the numerous posts disregarding the Old Covenant-New Covenant concept, the most recent of which is on the last page. Also, though it was painting with a broad brush on my part, it seems that most people who throw out some of the criticisms that you used are weaker on such matters than I'd prefer.
Again, that's no genuine jab against you, since you clearly have some grasp of the text, whatever your actual verdict may be on its truth. That's all. |
Member 19121 Level 28.42 Feb 2007
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Member 18063 Level 13.72 Jan 2007
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in the faith has taught me this much and more.
I am aquainted with hinduism, buddahism, islam, and even the satanic following. ALL of them require people to "earn" the favor of their associated deitys through "correct" living and or practice of the given system. I continue to stress freedom time and again because the bible teaches the we can be free from such systems by accepting the fact that there is nothing we can do to earn our way into happiness & heaven. Its free when you give up your way, place God first and ask Him to save you through His plan through is plan through Jesus Christ. How about you give God a chance with a simple request for forgivness of the bad things you've done & a request to be saved through Him being in charge. You will get immediate evidence from your decision as I did because you are given a gift (1 Corinthians 6:19). Those other systems left me wanting and empty because there is never enough you can do and we are left with no evidence of any eternal reward for efforts.
Last edited by LordsSword : Sep 11, 2007 at 02:54 PM.
Reason: "any other way" Soul calibur3
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Member 24 Level 48.46 Mar 2006
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Do you honestly think that Christianity is EXEMPT from this? Your deity essentially says: "If you do not follow my rules, and if you do not love me, you're gonna PAY, boy." What are you smoking, LordSword?
What do I even say to this. Do you understand anything you read, LordSword? Go back and read that. "You're free if you do everything God says."
Start recommending shit I should try to get on your god's good side, and I start to lose it. MY recommendation? Get educated. Start respecting other people and THEIR choices. (How many times have I said this to you, LordSword. You're absolutely RIDICULOUS)
FREE IPODS?
There are a lot of half-wits out there. If you're trying on religious shoes to see which one best suits your needs, there's no harm in it. You're exploring yourself and your options. But DO NOT tell people what they SHOULD and SHOULD NOT DO. One day, maybe you will understand. |
Member 121 Level 16.87 Mar 2006
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We all know the New Covenant ridiculousness was made up by that blasphemer, Saul of Tarsis, anyway.
Yahweh was talking to Jews. Let's please remember that gentiles have to make up gods out of men in order to feel included. |
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Member 18063 Level 13.72 Jan 2007
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Your problem is that on some level this discussion is important to you cause you do believe there is a God, my book says you do as well.
People who come against me force me to practice my faith better. I am fan of the R-type games and many here remind me of the drive it takes to play. One man, one cause against so much opposition. Some here tell me to basically sell out and try some other "religion" but where is the compromise of their part. Its a war but not against you guys, my struggle is against the very reality that has been given for you perceive. What authority says I am wrong anyway? I asked this a few posts back and got no answer. You (the reader) dont know & don't care, your happy where you are being plugged in to something thats sucking the life out of you.
Last edited by LordsSword : Sep 12, 2007 at 01:34 PM.
Reason: endless war soul calibur3
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Member 24 Level 48.46 Mar 2006
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Dude. GET A THERAPIST. IMMEDIATELY.
You're stomping all over everyone who doesn't believe in what you believe. That's so wrong, I can't even begin to explain. You seem not to understand though. Maybe if you got a therapist.... God can be neither proven nor disproven. Therefore, it's all a matter of speculation. See how that works?
First, you said atheists "had never been through hard times" because we hadn't found god. Then, you say that we're having our lives sucked out of us. Who the bloody FUCK are you to judge how I lead my life? You seriously embody most of what I hate about evangelism. Congratulations. |
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Member 18063 Level 13.72 Jan 2007
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I've sat down face to face with Muslims, Atheists, Jehova Whitnesses and hashed it out with them and they respected me more when I had answers for their questions and questions about their views. We even launched belief proposals against each other as well and walked away with no ill will. Often they are honorable opponents with well reasoned convictions because they have rule books too. You have no source of rules leaving you with no defense, no structure and no direction thus I offer you my own. Structure is the basis for all freedom in every discipline imagined. Please consider mine.
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Reason: synthetic-life gradius 2
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Member 24 Level 48.46 Mar 2006
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FIRST of all, people of opposing religions are not "opponents." what the fuck is wrong with you to think that they are. I don't need to justify my lack of faith to you what-so-ever. I have structure and I have morals. You don't know jack shit about me, and the instant you presume to know anything about my personal moral structure is the second I call bullshit on you. I will repeat myself AGAIN so maybe this time you will understand! Being an atheist does not mean you do not have a moral structure. It does not mean atheists are bad people. It does not mean atheists are "lost" or "need help." It means we've thought through our religious options and decided NOT TO FUCKING GO WITH ANY because we -JUST. DON'T. BELIEVE. IN. IT.- You can think I am lost, you can think I'll burn in hell - you won't know shit until you die. Only in death will anyone know any "truth," and until then, we can only speculate on what happens. I mean, hell. We just may die, go into the ground, and that's that. We may not even THINK after death as a "soul" or whatever voodoo shit people believe in. We very likely just fucking die. I know, I know. It's a hard thing to accept! Not everyone can, I guess. Thus: religion. I am a good person, and I work hard to do the good things in life, both for others and for myself. I'm not perfect, but no human is. The only difference between you and I is that you use your faith as a reason to be good and strong. I use myself.
Because I use the word "fuck" or "shit" or ANY OTHER profanity does not mean I am ANGRY. I'm not. I assure you, if I were really angry, I wouldn't be here right now, typing this crap. I am disappointed that there are humans like you who exist in the twenty-first century. You're the reason wars are fought. You're the reason people ramp up emotions towards one another. Your religion is NOT RIGHT, as no religion (or even LACK of religion!) IS RIGHT. Additionally, why would you even want to deny a human emotion. You make no fucking sense.
Last edited by Sassafrass : Sep 12, 2007 at 04:40 PM.
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Member 2219 Level 13.14 Mar 2006
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I stand for Das Kapital, a document that has proven its worth, can be seen & researched by others and discussed openly to the benefit of all. I stand for Mein Kampf, a document that has proven its worth, can be seen & researched by others and discussed openly to the benefit of all.
Now that you've broken out of your Socratic defense strategy, maybe you could share how your agnosticism works with regards to Santa Claus, Big Foot, Russell's Teapot, Sherlock Holmes, the inexaustable laundry list of other imaginery folk figures and the thousands of dead Gods which lie burried in that mass grave called mythology. If God could be disproven then the logical consequence of this would see atheism as a truism or a tautology and theism as entirely nonsensical. Since God, or anything for that matter, cannot be disproven, anyone who describes themselves as an atheist is in a strong language describing themselves as agnostic with a lean towards a disbelief in the existence of the object in question (90-10). The problem of agnosticism is that it gives a false idea that the existence of the "thing" in question has an equal 50-50 chance of either existing or not existing, which is, I'm sure you must agree on, an entirely false impression. If you disagree then I can only describe you as a fundamental agnostic (strictly 50-50) which is a rather odd and frankly hopeless view.  You're staring at me like I just asked you what the fucking square root of something. |
Member 12225 Level 26.09 Sep 2006
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I think it's dumb not to at least believe that there might be a remote chance of some higher power out there. I wouldn't ever want to be an atheist. Because my imagination wouldn't allow it anyhow. I have the imagination, and the open mindedness to believe in a God. To say that without God, I'd be an immoral individual is idiotic as well. Being a Christian didn't give me my morals. My morals are just part of what make me a Christian. I have no problem with people who are atheist, or agnostic. But seriously, if they can get in other people's faces about there being no God, why can't I get in there faces about there being a God? There really isn't a difference at this point. I've been finding both cliques of people to be equally annoying as of late.
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