Religion: What it means to you - Page 32

Sassafrass · Oct 17, 2007, 11:59 AM

Christianity means evangelism to me. Going out & interacting with folks is what Jesus has always done.

A.) "Christianity" means evangelism to you? Wow. That's kind of fucked up. You'd think it would mean something more like "moral code," "personal guidance," or "a way of life."

Instead, you think it's about recruiting people to join your "club."

B.) Do you really think anyone in society doesn't know who Jesus was or what he taught. (I am, of course, excluding those folks who live primitively in the Amazon and shit like that. I hope you never get your dirty little hands on them)

Capo · Oct 17, 2007, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Many thanks to the Admins here for being attentive to me in their own way to keep me focused and giving me the opportunity to make my case.
Their contribution to the work of Christ doesn't go unnoticed.

This thread is worth keeping open just for gems like this. Haha.

LordsSword · Local time: Oct 17, 2007, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

A.) "Christianity" means evangelism to you? Wow. That's kind of fucked up. You'd think it would mean something more like "moral code," "personal guidance," or "way of life."

Missionaries still swarm the globe in an effort to do what I have done and do alot of good in their efforts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Auca

Despite the current view of the Christian faith we continue because of reactions like yours. Its not a club its a way of life that has changed the world for the better.

Research the origins of the most prestigious educational institutions in the U.S. & the older charitable institutions as well. You will find the Bible has alot to do with their founding.

Devoxycontin · Local time: Oct 17, 2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

its a way of life that has changed the world for the better.

That's certainly up for debate.

kinkymagic · Local time: Oct 17, 2007, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Missionaries still swarm the globe in an effort to do what I have done

What have you done except annoy people and give Christianity a bad name?

Sassafrass · Oct 17, 2007, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Missionaries still swarm the globe in an effort to do what I have done and do alot of good in their efforts.

I would imply something about "Armageddon," but I think it would go over your head.

They swarm the globe and annoy the shit out of everyone who has an established faith.

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Despite the current view of the Christian faith we continue because of reactions like yours. Its not a club its a way of life that has changed the world for the better.

That's DEFINITELY arguable. "For the better" is what you say. "For the worse" is what I say.

Wars are fought over bullshit like this. People DIE over such trivial crap.

I hope you start critically thinking soon.

I was under the impression, by the way, that pride is a sin. You may want to consider that when preaching your tripe.

SuperNova · Oct 17, 2007, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Missionaries still swarm the globe in an effort to do what I have done and do alot of good in their efforts.

If I were starving and uneducated, and someone brought me food and said "this is a gift from the great leader Bozo the Clown", I would probably start wearing big red floppy shoes in his honor too. While the people may be grateful for your interventions, I have a hard time believing that the sole purpose of their new found faith is enlightenment, I would say it's more survival. The people helped in these tribal cultures are more than likely listening to you because you bring them aid that anyone could give them. You just got there first.

So exactly what age were you brainwashed again?

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Despite the current view of the Christian faith we continue because of reactions like yours. Its not a club its a way of life that has changed the world for the better.

Because The Crusades were definitely for the better. Nothing like millions of deaths that make you wanna give yourself a pat on the back!

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Research the origins of the most prestigious educational institutions in the U.S. & the older charitable institutions as well. You will find the Bible has alot to do with their founding.

Yeah, the Jesuits. And we all know that people that go to "Jesuit" universities today are preaching the word of the Lord. They wake up on their Sunday mornings while hungover after a night of heavy drinking and sleeping around. Let's face it, even institutions that were built on the basis of any kind of religion in this country is lost on those who currently run them.

LordsSword · Local time: Oct 18, 2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by kinkymagic

What have you done except annoy people and give Christianity a bad name?

Since you are not a Christian you are in no position to judge my statements.
The option of the experiment I told you about is still open.

As I stated before I will accept biblical correction & retract my statements if I am in error.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

They swarm the globe and annoy the shit out of everyone who has an established faith.

As a practice of a biblical command to believers.
You ask me to abandon a practice of my faith to make you comfortable.
Acts 5:29-Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men!

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Wars are fought over bullshit like this. People DIE over such trivial crap.

No. People die because they react in judgment of others without knowlege and mercy.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

I was under the impression, by the way, that pride is a sin. You may want to consider that when preaching your tripe.

Show me a biblical verse to sustain your opinion.

Originally Posted by SuperNova

I have a hard time believing that the sole purpose of their new found faith is enlightenment, I would say it's more survival. The people helped in these tribal cultures are more than likely listening to you because you bring them aid that anyone could give them.

This is how you think.

Originally Posted by SuperNova

Because The Crusades were definitely for the better. Nothing like millions of deaths that make you wanna give yourself a pat on the back!

I would be rich if I got a nickle every time I heard this one.

The crusades are NOT sustained by anything in the bible. The "christians" involved in that struggle broke every rule in Gods word. Blame the self justified leaders and the ignorance of their followers not the bible.

Originally Posted by SuperNova

Let's face it, even institutions that were built on the basis of any kind of religion in this country is lost on those who currently run them.

This is a grim truth that I will admit. Over the years my people got lax and just handed it all over. They got tired and weaker in faith with every new generation. At one time folks like me were not seen as an oddity but our true adversary has been hard at work.

packrat · 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Since you are not a Christian you are in no position to judge my statements.
The option of the experiment I told you about is still open.

Originally Posted by Matthew 7:15-19

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Thus far, you have only brought irritation, frustration, and contempt down upon yourself and Christianity by your peers. These are certainly not the good fruits Jesus speaks of.

Your ridiculous assertion that, since he is not a Christian, he is in no position to judge the opinion of those external to Christianity is utterly without merit. If it is your duty to be an evangelist, and be a good ambassador to the non-Christian masses, you are doing a piss-poor job of it.

And don't go whining about good intentions either. Good intentions are irrelevant if the acts it inspires are not performed properly/effectively.

Sassafrass · Oct 18, 2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

As a practice of a biblical command to believers.
You ask me to abandon a practice of my faith to make you comfortable.

ABANDON YOUR FAITH?

Jesus fucking CHRIST, man. What did they brainwash you with?

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No. People die because they react in judgment of others without knowlege and mercy.

You don't even KNOW WHAT KNOWLEDGE IS. You intentionally remain ignorant!

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Show me a biblical verse to sustain your opinion.

Show me evidence that God exists and then we can talk.

LordSword, I don't know what your major mental malfunction is, but you're pretty much the prime example of what will be eradicated in future generations thanks to Darwinism.

"I hope and pray god will cure me! Only HE can save me! It's all up to him!"

*DROPS DEAD*

Lizardcommando · 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

As a practice of a biblical command to believers.
You ask me to abandon a practice of my faith to make you comfortable.
Acts 5:29-Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men!

Says who? Who is this God character?

I know that question probably crosses the line between respecting what people believe in and being an asshole, but seriously, who the hell even knows this "God" exists? For all we know, the concept of "God" was created by a group of people with financial and military power to keep people in check.

kinkymagic · Local time: Oct 18, 2007, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Show me a biblical verse to sustain your opinion.

Proverbs 11:2
Proverbs 16:18
Proverbs 18:12

packrat · 07:56 PM

While I'm at it:

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

B.) Do you really think anyone in society doesn't know who Jesus was or what he taught.

Yeah! You really showed him, especially with this:

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

ABANDON YOUR FAITH?

Jesus fucking CHRIST, man. What did they brainwash you with?

Never mind he didn't say he had to "abandon [his] faith," he said "abandon a practice of [his] faith." Good job attacking him with a statement he didn't make! Trolls couldn't do better.

Of course, lets also disregard that terrible secret that no one ever talks about; that evangelism has been a major pillar of Christianity (including Roman Catholicism) since its inception. Truly, this is a work of fuck-upedness and brainwashing that would put Jim Jones to shame(if the poor bastard were still alive today

). Yeah, you totally know who Jesus is and what he taught.

Originally Posted by Matthew 28:19-20

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.

Originally Posted by Mark 16:15-16

He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Oh, never mind that bullshit. The last fucking thing Jesus said to his followers wasn't really of any importance to Christian practice. Yeah. Thats totally straining the bounds of reason right there. Those evil Christians. They don't really think that there's an afterlife, and there are more important things beyond this world. Their philosophical approach to the world isn't different from your own. Its all just a cover for their evil purposes of destroying the world with NASCAR, Bibles, and Buddy Christ bumper stickers.

But of course I'm just repeating whats already obvious to you. You know who Jesus was and what he taught after all.

Capo · Oct 18, 2007, 07:51 PM

Ah, now I see. All biblical conventions should continue to be practiced today.

I'll grab the sheep, you get the kindling. Time to sac-ri-fice, baby.

DarkLink2135 · Oct 18, 2007, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Capo

Ah, now I see. All biblical conventions should continue to be practiced today.

I'll grab the sheep, you get the kindling. Time to sac-ri-fice, baby.

That's incredibly ignorant. Biblically speaking, sacrificing animals to absolve sins was no longer needed after Jesus sacrificed Himself on the cross for the sins of mankind.

I'm not saying you should believe either one way or the other, by all means, form your own beliefs, but at least be informed about the things you are going to discuss.

SuperNova · Oct 18, 2007, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Since you are not a Christian you are in no position to judge my statements.

Thanks. That's the argumentative equivalent of "NO U!" or "NUH UH! YOU'RE WRONG!" You sit there and judge everyone else, how does it feel to be on the other side of the pedestal?

Originally Posted by LordsSword

This is how you think.

And everything YOU say is how YOU think. Prove to me how it makes you RIGHT, then I'll agree with you.

EDIT: And if you say "because the Bible said so" I swear... I'll... do something yet to be determined.

Originally Posted by LordsSword

I would be rich if I got a nickle every time I heard this one.

The crusades are NOT sustained by anything in the bible. The "christians" involved in that struggle broke every rule in Gods word. Blame the self justified leaders and the ignorance of their followers not the bible.

Okay. I'll accept that one.