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[PS3] I have to buy a PS3 (Disgaea 3)
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 07:28 PM #26 (permalink) of 137
I have an issue when the proof of concept shots look worse than their older works. Much worse, at that. The power is there, now it's just "Okay, we're taking the same system, upping the resolution on the sprites, and throwing it on a next gen console." Nippon Ichi is becoming Electronic Arts when it comes to lazy series of games.

This looks like something that should be on a portable system. For $35 or $40. Not something on a next-gen console for $60.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 08:01 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2007, 05:01 PM #27 (permalink) of 137
I can't even understand what the fuck this means.
And there's a whole lot more you apparently can't understand. Love that post though. Lots of... stuff there?

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 08:14 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 01:14 PM #28 (permalink) of 137
And there's a whole lot more you apparently can't understand. Love that post though. Lots of... stuff there?
Thanks for explaining what you meant by the particular sentence which I quoted.

Stop trolling and get out of my thread. Clearly you have nothing to contribute to the discussion of the game.

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 08:26 PM Local time: Jul 17, 2007, 05:26 PM #29 (permalink) of 137
It was something about not being a collective of ass about an untranslated press release and going on about how next gen doesn't need to be bloom and buzzword in response.

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Old Jul 17, 2007, 08:32 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 11:32 AM #30 (permalink) of 137

Christ, it's no surprise as to why SCCA hate 2D games. All everyone does is bitch.
SCEA hate everything though. 2D, anything developed by SCEE, Ico. They'll probably make it a PSN release for America, I guess. Which would actually be a pretty good idea. I should get paid for that idea. Enough for a pie. Delicious!

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Old Jul 18, 2007, 02:22 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 07:22 AM #31 (permalink) of 137
What he means is that it doesn't have to have super fancy graphics in order to be a good game. Which is basically what you said needs to happen for every PS3 game to be successful or good. It doesn't.

Just a reminder: Talk about the game, Disgaea 3, please. None of this "man it's coming out for the ps3 and i dont like the ps3 i really hope it gets ported to the 360 imma poor fuck." stuff.
I am not buying a console for 600€ (it might be 500 in former Soviet Republics, I dunno) to play games that could be played on PS2. This entire "a game doesn't need good graphics to be good" discussion is bullshit, at least as far next generation consoles are concerned. PS3 offers HD possibilities, so the developers should use those possibilities. I mean, this is like driving a F1 race with an oldtimer.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 08:51 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 12:51 PM 4 #32 (permalink) of 137
Thanks for explaining what you meant by the particular sentence which I quoted.

Stop trolling and get out of my thread. Clearly you have nothing to contribute to the discussion of the game.
Any more member moderation from you in this thread and I'm going to ban you from it. Just because you get a hard-on for Disgaea games, doesn't mean people aren't allowed to criticise them in a discussion thread.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 10:15 AM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 09:15 AM #33 (permalink) of 137
Heh, I already own a PS3, so I know that I'll be getting this game. I've loved the first 2 (although the first's story was far better than the 2nd, the second one had much more playability in it) so I definately hope this one is "more of the same", jsut better, considering it's a sequel and all.

Fancy graphics? Don't need 'em, as long as the game itself suits what is being used. Having Disgaea look like something other than the previous games would detract from the overall experience I think. I like the screen shost posted, and I hope they are harbingers of a great game.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 01:31 PM #34 (permalink) of 137
I am not buying a console for 600€ (it might be 500 in former Soviet Republics, I dunno) to play games that could be played on PS2. This entire "a game doesn't need good graphics to be good" discussion is bullshit, at least as far next generation consoles are concerned. PS3 offers HD possibilities, so the developers should use those possibilities. I mean, this is like driving a F1 race with an oldtimer.
While that does make sense, I think they're putting it on a next gen system because basicly all companies begin to abandone the previous gen consoles after a certain point regardless of whether the console could handle the game or not. Heck we're lucky we're still getting PS2 games because no one is making X-Box or Gamecube games for crap.

On another note, if I did get a PS3 this game would be the only reason. I don't care about Final Fantasy 13 or Metal Gear Solid 4. Anything else I want is available on the 360.

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Old Jul 18, 2007, 03:39 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 08:39 PM #35 (permalink) of 137
It's good to know that you would buy a 600-bux-console for one single game which seems to be absolutely fantastic, I guess (?)
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 03:42 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 11:42 AM #36 (permalink) of 137
And don't forget that it could probably run on your current console!
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 03:42 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 07:42 PM #37 (permalink) of 137
Heck we're lucky we're still getting PS2 games because no one is making X-Box or Gamecube games for crap.
As far as I know the PS2 is still the best selling console. It might possibly have been pipped by the Wii recently on sales but the userbase is gargantuan compared with any other console. For software developers to abandon the PS2 now would be commercially retarded at best. I'll be amazed if this game gets released with those screen shots as gameplay footage on the PS3 with no PS2 version.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 04:06 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 02:06 PM #38 (permalink) of 137
Is it bad that I was just thinking about how I hate graphics whores in the shower this morning?

SO THE FUCK WHAT IF IT DOESN'T MAKE FULL USE OF THE GRAPHICS CHIP.






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Old Jul 18, 2007, 04:13 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 09:13 PM #39 (permalink) of 137
Uhh okay well look dude I totally don't give a flying fuck about graphics at all (well okay maybe I do because honestly, why would you spend 500 dollars for a next generation high definition console if you just want to play PS2 games on it), but when people start saying things like "oh hey I'd buy a PlayStation 3 because of this awesome game called Diarrhea 3" I am already getting extremely excited over that.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 04:19 PM Local time: Jul 18, 2007, 02:19 PM #40 (permalink) of 137
Most people aren't so retarded as to get a system for 1 game; just because there is one game that pushes someone over into purchasing a system doesn't mean that there's a possibility of other games on the system that they don't want/will want.

I mean, another Ico game might push me over into MUSTS HAVES but that doesn't mean that there's not a lot of stuff I'd like to play that's already out/coming out.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 04:30 PM #41 (permalink) of 137
It's good to know that you would buy a 600-bux-console for one single game which seems to be absolutely fantastic, I guess (?)
I would probably buy some other games as well, but without a game I care about as much as this. I just wouldn't have the motivation given I have many reasons to have hatred of Sony as of late.

As far as I know the PS2 is still the best selling console. It might possibly have been pipped by the Wii recently on sales but the userbase is gargantuan compared with any other console. For software developers to abandon the PS2 now would be commercially retarded at best. I'll be amazed if this game gets released with those screen shots as gameplay footage on the PS3 with no PS2 version.
I understand that, but as history has taught us developers abandone systems. They didn't exactly stick around for the NES when the SNES came out, or any other system down the line prior to this for that matter. You know why PS2 is the best selling system of all time? People who grew up with video games kept playing them, there are simply more gamers in the world now then ever before.

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Old Jul 18, 2007, 05:35 PM #42 (permalink) of 137
I'm glad they're not changing the graphics to fit the PS3's capabilities, but it's still a mystery why they'd even release it on PS3 in the first place. Like several others have already said, with these graphics there's no reason not to put it out on PS2 for much higher sales.

Hell, if they really wanted to put it on a next generation console then the 360 and Wii both have larger customer bases. The PSP might even be able to handle this game. The PS3 is probably the worst possible choice here.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 07:17 PM Local time: Jul 19, 2007, 12:17 PM #43 (permalink) of 137
Any more member moderation from you in this thread and I'm going to ban you from it. Just because you get a hard-on for Disgaea games, doesn't mean people aren't allowed to criticise them in a discussion thread.
What I said was called for completely. Comments like:

And there's a whole lot more you apparently can't understand. Love that post though. Lots of... stuff there?
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Christ sake can someone translate the mother fucking press release already? I don't know how multiple people being harbingers of death and anger when it comes to an activity that's supposed to promote fun overrode UNDERSTANDING AND REASON.
Aren't criticizing or related to the game at all. Shit, the first is trolling and the second doesn't even make sense. It's bad enough people are straying with PS3 discussion over "criticizing the game" or even talking about the game in general without getting even more off topic.

And for god's sake Mush, if you don't like the game I don't know what you're doing commenting about it. The PS3's price will probably be lower in 2008, with better backwards compatibility support and more games.

Almost no consoles have AAA titles within the first 6 months of their release. And people do buy consoles for just a single game. I can't remember which one of you it was; possibly Aard or yourself, but one of you went on months ago about how "if people want to purchase a console for one game, they'll do it, it's fine, let them."

Disgaea's fans won't want the game to be in 3D. Nor will they want the battle system to change too much. It needs to maintain the overall feel from the previous games.
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