[Wii] Virtual Console Discussion Thread

There seems to be a VC release list, but no actual thread to discuss these kind of games. So I'm here to save the day!

What games did you get, which ones are you looking forward to, what games were horrible mistakes to release, etc. etc.?

For myself, I've got Super Mario 64, the Legend of Zelda, Super Castlevania IV and Super Mario Bros.

Zelda is still kinda sucky, even when I play it on my Wii. I just can't get into it. The other games however, are great. Mainly Super Castlevania IV, which I've never played before, is a real blast. I'm currently trying to pick between either R-type or Gunstar Heroes. Who can help me out here?

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So far I got Gunstar Heroes, R-Type, Super Castlevania IV and Super Mario Bros.

I've played Super Mario Bros. the most merely for nostalgic value. I just can't seem to get into Castlevania IV using the GC controller. Maybe i'll give it more playtime when I get a classic controller.

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I wonder if they will get any other systems. I wouldn't mind seeing a GG Virtual console or maybe a GBC Virtual Console

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F-Zero, Solomon's Key, Super Mario Bros., Golden Axe, Ecco, Ice Hockey, oh and some game called "Zelda". *throws it to the side*

Once I get my credit card statement, I guess I'll get Castlevania and Gunstar. I really can't wait for some Gradius and Contra! I'm looking forward to seeing some of these compatible with online play, but considering how long it's taking for the Wii games to be online... :\

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Originally Posted by Grawl

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Nope!

I've downloaded Donkey Kong Country, F-Zero, Bomberman '93, Bonk's Adventure, Super Star Soldier and Alien Crush. I'm holding off on more because I'm still not sure what's doin' with my Wii at this point in time. Kinda wish I'd gotten something else instead of SSS though. Like an ice cream made of broken glass.

Alien Crush is bloody addictive even with its massive selection of a single table. Whatever happened to Super Probotector for the PAL VC? It was meant to come out weeks ago and vanished. ;_; Looking forward to PILOTWINGS 64. PILOTWINGS 64 NINTENDO. PILOTWINGS. 64. Come aaawwwwwn already. Oh yeah get Gunstar Heroes. Get it so good!

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I'm still trying to get my hands on a Wii, and I'm hoping to see Super Mario World and Legend of Zelda: A link to the past released outside Japan ASAP. I've been playing some Bomberman '93 at my friends house, and I think it has aged with dignity, better party games are hard to find.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well once I get my Wii I wont be downloading anything that I can't emulate or play online. I'm perfectly happy with current emulation standards and not shelling out money to Nintendo for the same stuff.

I'd like to know if Nintendo has or has plans to possibly release added content for some of these games. If that happend then I'd consider buying some VC stuff.

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US gets screwed in release AGAIN!

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Originally Posted by Slash

US gets screwed in release AGAIN!

Yea man, totally. They were the first to get the Wii, and all.

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I mean come on! All we have is like...4...FOUR SNES Games!

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Originally Posted by Hotobu

Well once I get my Wii I wont be downloading anything that I can't emulate or play online. I'm perfectly happy with current emulation standards and not shelling out money to Nintendo for the same stuff.

And what standards are these?...None? Go boast about all the roms you've downloaded. I think bragging about your obvious lack of participation in the thread isn't quite necessary. You do know that roms are for backup purposes for games you already have, right?

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For anyone who's curious. If you delete a Virtual Console game, like I did, you can re-download it for free.

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Originally Posted by Lukage

And what standards are these?...None? Go boast about all the roms you've downloaded. I think bragging about your obvious lack of participation in the thread isn't quite necessary. You do know that roms are for backup purposes for games you already have, right?

The standards are mine. Furthermore stop reading shit into people's posts. I didn't brag about anything. It would be stupid of me to buy something I can play just as well for free. Moreover this is precisely the thread to talk about it as it's a *Virtual Console Discussion Thread* and thus the place to discuss descisions on whether or not to buy VC games. I know exactly what roms are for and I have and will continue to do what I've done for over a decade.

Lastly I find it interesting how you just ignored the last part of the post. Does Nintendo have plans to add content to already existing games?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yes, they have the option to update VC games. For those games there will be an update button next to their game on the shopping channel for games they've added things to that you've already bought. What they plan to update I can't really be definite about. Perhaps online multiplayer, perhaps new levels, perhaps new powerups... they could possibly add anything with these updates. Perhaps it's as simple as putting your highscore or game completion time in a game online. However, to answer your question yes, with the update possibility they do plan to add content to games. I'm not sure how they'll accomplish it though since some people want the original games as well. However they do it will most likely be optional. The real question is when they'll start doing it and with what games.

What I'm more concerned about right now is the pathetic releases they've had as of late. Japan had Super Mario World and The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past at launch. I think that more than a month into the life of Wii it's unacceptable that we don't have these games yet. I'm glad that Konami and Capcom have released some games but I'd like to see more third party releases AND I'd like these not to be an excuse for Nintendo to not release their own games for a certain console. The SNES and N64 sections are laughable. I'm just amazed at how well Sega and Hudson/NEC are owning my Wii points. I expected the SNES to take my Wii Points and make them its bitch, but no, apparently Nintendo doesn't care about its golden era of gaming.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

What is the reason for the discrepency in releases for each region? I could understand if we were dealing with physical merchandise where you have to estimate supply and demand, but it's as simple as uploading a game and letting people download it. I doubt Nintendo would notice the server space.

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Not quite that simple. I think a big part of it is creating the in-game manual that you can access when pressing the home button on the wii controller or classic controller. Those things are pretty extensive and are basically the equivalent or greater than an actual game manual or a mini-guide. That and putting the games through ESRB for ratings for their parental control system is what is probably creating the delays. The only reason Japan is getting their VC games faster is that their rating system is probably faster than our ESRB and they've got a better in-game manual creating team or they started on making the in-game manuals or submitted the games to their rating system earlier. It could be any combination of those things. I'm probably not far off.

If not any of those then Nintendo is just a bunch of dickweeds that need to get their act together or at least get a fucking priority list. I mean some of these NES games are complete shit and don't deserve this Monday throne over give-me titles like Super Mario World and A Link to the Past. Okay, Nintendo has got to get its act together in that regard. No excuse there. Next Monday better fucking not be a NES selection from the shit vault and Sega dominated Monday. It's getting old.

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The thread creator may want to add this link to the first post.

Also on the note of the releases what you're saying probably is the explanation for the delayed releases. I'd lean more towards the ESRB than the manual explanation, but either or both are equally feasable.

You said the manual was in some cases much more extensive than the original instruction booklet. Is this to say that you're given hints above and beyond what would be expected? I'm picturing a "Navi-type" deal where if you need help and pull up the manual you get more info than you may want, or people using the manual as a crutch all the way through the game.

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European gamers are getting Super Mario World, Mario Kart 64, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Q1 2007. So...when's the US getting some love?

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic

European gamers are getting Super Mario World, Mario Kart 64, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Q1 2007. So...when's the US getting some love?

Who knows...You'd think that most of Nintendo's focus would be on NA since its a large, and i do mean LARGE market here but eh...

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Originally Posted by Hotobu

The standards are mine. Furthermore stop reading shit into people's posts. I didn't brag about anything. It would be stupid of me to buy something I can play just as well for free. Moreover this is precisely the thread to talk about it as it's a *Virtual Console Discussion Thread* and thus the place to discuss descisions on whether or not to buy VC games. I know exactly what roms are for and I have and will continue to do what I've done for over a decade.

There's a difference between not wanting a game because you don't find it entertaining...and not wanting a game because you refuse to pay for it.

Originally Posted by Hotobu

Lastly I find it interesting how you just ignored the last part of the post. Does Nintendo have plans to add content to already existing games?

I didn't know the answer, so I didn't need to cite it.

In regards to the cost of points themselves....I'd like to see maybe a membership, where you pay monthly simply for a number of titles, then choose them. Even if Mario 64 is 1000 points and Contra is 500, I'll take Contra.

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic

European gamers are getting Super Mario World, Mario Kart 64, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Q1 2007. So...when's the US getting some love?

They could have at least dished out Rock 'n Roll Racing. Good game or goodest game?

I was speaking idiomatically.

That would be Blizzard's department, wouldn't it?

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Originally Posted by Slash

Who knows...You'd think that most of Nintendo's focus would be on NA since its a large, and i do mean LARGE market here but eh...

The european market (UK, Aus & NZ) gets screwed over with almost every PS2 title, every xbox title, and there was months before some Gamecube titles were released here. Twilight Princess comes to mind here, as does Harvest Moon.

The reason behind this is because they somehow need to translate a game into 4 different languages before releasing it here. Which is completely unnecessary, because nobody in Aus/NZ speaks italian/dutch/etc, yet they're still equally delayed for as long as possible. We get games last.

But hey, check this out. Good VC games are coming to the european Wii before america. Considering you guys 1) are capable of using the Freeloader to play foreign games already and 2) received the Wii a month before it was released here, I'd say it evens out.

Something good occurs for the european gaming industry, america bitches.

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You know, I think it wouldn't be half a big a deal if you crazy Europeans and Down-under'ers didn't use PAL. At least for Down-under'ers if it they used NTSC they could just slap a new rating sticker on it and ship the US version but noooooo you guys had to be fucking different. I blame PAL completely for your abandonment acid reflux disease.

Really, I'd just say that for once the Europeans have a capable staff. What would make me lol is if they're doing our English VC manuals and the reason why we get our stuff after you guys is that our VC teams have to take the time to parse their English manuals out of the multi-language manuals or some shit.

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Originally Posted by Elixir

The european market (UK, Aus & NZ) gets screwed over with almost every PS2 title, every xbox title, and there was months before some Gamecube titles were released here. Twilight Princess comes to mind here, as does Harvest Moon.

The reason behind this is because they somehow need to translate a game into 4 different languages before releasing it here. Which is completely unnecessary, because nobody in Aus/NZ speaks italian/dutch/etc, yet they're still equally delayed for as long as possible. We get games last.

But hey, check this out. Good VC games are coming to the european Wii before america. Considering you guys 1) are capable of using the Freeloader to play foreign games already and 2) received the Wii a month before it was released here, I'd say it evens out.

Something good occurs for the european gaming industry, america bitches.

FYI, from what I've read Freeloader doesn't work on Wii..and it wouldn't have anything to do with VC

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