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[PS2] Ace Combat Thread (a.k.a. We Do Not Have Air Superiority)
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Old Mar 6, 2006, 05:10 PM Local time: Mar 6, 2006, 11:10 PM #76 of 637
Before the downtime, I believe there was quite a lot of opposition to it.

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 05:11 PM #77 of 637
Yeah, you missed it.

The last Gamingforce meet took place at an Air Force base. We broke into a hangar and stole some FA-22s, and engaged in a massive dogfight. Unfortunately, one of my QAAMs malfunctioned and blew up before it detached from my plane, so I had to eject, and crash landed into a Wal*Mart. The others had to come find me, kind of like White Noise.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 08:32 PM #78 of 637
25-04-06

And here's the corroboration from GameStop. I'm so glad I put down a reserve deposit on this.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 08:40 PM #79 of 637
Yeah, because copies of ACZ will be so rare, right.

1. Box art sucks

2. $40 ain't no thang

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 09:11 PM #80 of 637
arrrrrrgh fucking localization shitted over the box art again. Why the hell will you fix something that is perfectly fine (referring to japanese box art)

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 09:54 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 03:54 PM #81 of 637
Why am I not surprised.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 10:57 PM #82 of 637
Yeah, they really fucked up on this one. The Japanese boxart was fine, but somehow, they've managed to mangle this just by moving certain things.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:03 PM #83 of 637
Quote:
* Testimony Movie System: After your missions are over, cut scene interviews of rival pilots will comment on your encounters with them giving you an in depth look at your enemy.
That's going to be awesome.

"THAT MOBIUS 1 DUDE FUCKED ME UP SO BAAAAAAAAD...."

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:14 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 05:14 PM #84 of 637
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Yeah, they really fucked up on this one. The Japanese boxart was fine, but somehow, they've managed to mangle this just by moving certain things.
Care to post a picture of it?

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:29 PM #85 of 637


You could've clicked the link to Gamestop's page for it, but there it is. Looks like they centered the explosion and toned down the red on the whole. Still, something else looks off when compared to the japanese one.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:32 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 05:32 PM #86 of 637
Eh, I must admit that the japanese version is better.

In AC5, the japanese version had english talking and japanese subtitles, is it the same for ACZ?

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:38 PM #87 of 637
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere


You could've clicked the link to Gamestop's page for it, but there it is. Looks like they centered the explosion and toned down the red on the whole. Still, something else looks off when compared to the japanese one.
Simple, they fucked up the principles of art. They moved the plane away from the perspective, so you can no longer focus on the action. The intensity (sharp contrasts) from the explosion is removed, so the grittiness of combat is removed. And the explosion only covered HALF of the box (dumbed down firework) All of that put together, a fucked up boxart. Fan-fucking-tastic namco!

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:42 PM #88 of 637
What is this, art class.

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:51 PM #89 of 637
Originally Posted by Megalith
What is this, art class.
Ahahaha, for real.

The Box Art ain't even that bad. Are you going to buy the game to play it or stare at the box all day.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 01:00 AM #90 of 637
Originally Posted by YUKTOBANIA
Ahahaha, for real.

The Box Art ain't even that bad. Are you going to buy the game to play it or stare at the box all day.
If you've seen the boxart for the US version of ICO, then you have a point. But this is yet another example of unnecessary tinkering. What exactly were they trying to achieve? A far more eye catching case? Big, manly explosions?

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The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 01:09 AM Local time: Mar 7, 2006, 11:09 PM #91 of 637
My roommate just looked over my shoulder and said, "That box looks cool, what game is it for?"

Now all of you shut the fuck up about it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 01:15 AM #92 of 637
Originally Posted by RacinReaver
My roommate just looked over my shoulder and said, "That box looks cool, what game is it for?"

Now all of you shut the fuck up about it.
Racin, he's weak, convert him! [/Skills]

On another note, what the hell, 18 missions? It's like AC04 all over again, and if it's anywhere as good, I'm going to be pissed since that game was like tasting the best food in existance... for about 2 seconds.

Good things could be that each missions is much more focused, with less of the pacifist retardo junk that Edge, Archer and Chopper spouted.

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The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 01:37 AM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 07:37 PM #93 of 637
Originally Posted by RacinReaver
My roommate just looked over my shoulder and said, "That box looks cool, what game is it for?"

Now all of you shut the fuck up about it.
Get new friends.

I just was informed that the japanese version of ACZ is exactly like the english version will be: everything, including voices, in english, with japanese subtitles.

Brb importing.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 8, 2006, 01:47 AM #94 of 637
The fact that ACZ is basing itself on AC04 proves that 04 was a better game than 5. Too bad I was right all along.

Like AC04, ACZ will also be less character-oriented, meaning that your actions will actually feel important in the game.

The Excalibur laser and Knights of the Round airspace is also brilliant.

Double Post:
Yeah, I forgot to mention that no matter how good ACZ looks like it is shaping up to be, none of the missions will come close to Operation Bunker Shot.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 02:27 AM #95 of 637
Originally Posted by YUKTOBANIA
Ahahaha, for real.

The Box Art ain't even that bad. Are you going to buy the game to play it or stare at the box all day.
Remember Hideo Kojima once said, box art is ALSO a part of a game? Sure, I buy game for the sake of game, but I keep in mind that I am also spending a portion of the money on the box itself; therefore, I do believe customers deserve a decent box art whenever it is possible.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 03:48 AM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 02:48 AM #96 of 637
Kojima says lots of bullshit nonsense. He's almost as bad as Kutaragi as far as BS goes.

The box art for ICO is horrible. The game rules. The same can be said for We <3 Katamari, Dark CLoud, or pretty much any shmup outside of Gradius V. Sure, decent box art is nice, but it's not really the focus here. The box art could have goatse on the cover and I'd still buy it.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 04:05 AM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 10:05 PM #97 of 637
Originally Posted by JUST DECLARED WAR
Kojima says lots of bullshit nonsense. He's almost as bad as Kutaragi as far as BS goes.

The box art for ICO is horrible. The game rules. The same can be said for We <3 Katamari, Dark CLoud, or pretty much any shmup outside of Gradius V. Sure, decent box art is nice, but it's not really the focus here. The box art could have goatse on the cover and I'd still buy it.
All of We <3 Katamari's box art is fine, disregarding the american version. I don't recall any shmups having bad box art, I'm sure if you posted some that would help greatly.

Oh and contrary to popular belief, goatse's box art is pretty good. I've played goatse, but it's pretty much only an average game.



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Old Mar 8, 2006, 10:04 AM #98 of 637
Originally Posted by JUST DECLARED WAR
Kojima says lots of bullshit nonsense. He's almost as bad as Kutaragi as far as BS goes.

The box art for ICO is horrible. The game rules. The same can be said for We <3 Katamari, Dark CLoud, or pretty much any shmup outside of Gradius V. Sure, decent box art is nice, but it's not really the focus here. The box art could have goatse on the cover and I'd still buy it.
keep in mind that he is an experienced developer and he knows what he is doing. I have never mentioned that box art should be a focus, but it is also a portion you are paying for. So let me guess, you would like to have your game wrapped within wet toilet papers, huh?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 04:25 PM #99 of 637
Originally Posted by Skwerl
keep in mind that he is an experienced developer and he knows what he is doing. I have never mentioned that box art should be a focus, but it is also a portion you are paying for. So let me guess, you would like to have your game wrapped within wet toilet papers, huh?
Kojima also made Metal Gear Solid 2, so I'm not exactly going to listen to every god damn thing he says.

Besides, you're going to be playing the game, not looking at the damn box. The Box Art is decent, and that's all that matters. Get over it already.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 05:38 PM Local time: Mar 8, 2006, 03:38 PM #100 of 637
Do you guys fag out over the art on the cd as well?

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