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CTV.ca | N.S. town moves to ban smoking in downtown district
Although I am part of the smoke Ghestappo, I have to wonder if cigarette banning hasn't gone too far. I rejoiced when cigarettes were banned from bars and restaurants; according to popular bars and restaurants in Quebec City, there are even more people! Now, not only are cigarettes hidden behind opaque panels (over which some are advertizing beer), but now we are told that THIRD-hand smoke (that sticks to clothes) is toxic Cigarette a legal product sold (usually) to consenting adults for consciously know it's killing them. How is ban on cigarette where you live? Is it enough? too much? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Here in Ontario [I'm not sure if the law is federal, or provincial, or even regional], smoking in public places outside is allowed, so long as you're 30 feet/10meters away from building entrances. There's usually designated smoking areas; but as long as you're far enough away from the doors, you're okay.
Inside public buildings [that is to say--a building that isn't somebody's home, or say, an apartment building's hallway] is not allowed. This includes things like taxis or work vehicles [like snowplows and such]. I noticed they started putting the opaque panels over the cigarettes in stores about a year ago, but I never understood why. People still know there's smokes behind them--except now, behind the counter you see ugly white steel panels instead of the colourful array of cigarette packaging. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
CTV.ca | Rights group blasts 'non-smoker' stipulation for job And I thought language discrimination in Quebec was the worst thing... Would you keep an employee away if he smoked? This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Well, I can't argue the legality of it but it seems kind of predictable that an anti-smoking group wouldn't want to hire smokers. I mean, you wouldn't expect the AA to hire a bartender.
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
My problem with the nonsmoking laws around here is more the fact that theres no stipulations for some kind of smoke-friendly bars. All of the places I use to haunt suffered greatly when people decided to stay home after the smoking laws were put into affect.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
I'm all for anti-smoking laws. Of every kind. I'm the guy who would ban all sale of cigarette everywhere, and ban smoking... everywhere.
FELIPE NO |
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
Last edited by The unmovable stubborn; Jan 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM.
Reason: I like these threads, because they help us to identify the cunts among us
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Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Actually, you know what, I take that back. It must be frustrating when you go in the bathroom at school and it's full of smoke. It's been so long since I've been in high school that I nearly forgot how frustrating it is when you only have five minutes to take a leak and you have to deal with that shit. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Well, although all smokers stink, not all people who stink... smoke.
Really, there is no legitimate reason for allowing smoking, at least not while so many less harmful things are banned. There is a definite double-standard here. A society that bans things like weed but allows tobacco? The only reason that smoking is still around is because it's embedded in the country economically, and because so many people are hooked on killing themselves and those around them that to try to ban it is more or less out of the question. I for one think that forcing everyone to go cold turkey, and ruining a few small convenience store businesses, would be a worthwhile price to pay. It'd be over soon. Of course, that's not feasible and probably never will be, so I content myself with being very happy with the laws banning it in public places. EDIT:
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
t Janus: you can bitch about third hand smoke when we're running purely off of solar panels, windmills and the power of Jesus' love. Be more concerned about relaxed environmental regulation that results in salmonella in your God-damned peanut butter. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Yes, nobody outside the United States has ever touched a cigarette in their lives. Yes, banning an addictive drug would, in fact, actually force people to stop taking it. That always works. A black market definitely wouldn't spring up. Yes, you can resolve a double standard by curtailing liberty even further. Come on, man. Think. The whole notion that something should be banned because you can hurt yourself by doing it is absurdist. How the hell do you think the automobile industry stays in business? I was speaking idiomatically. |
I'd have to take the cigs on this one buddy. Not to derail, but the argument above is completely and utterly stupid that you provide Shadow. Any dumbfuck pot smoker (I'm looking at you) who says that weed is 'less harmful' could be right in the sense that it does not do much harm to oneself, but I'm pretty sure weed has been responsible for as many injuries or fatalities as oh, let's say drunk driving. And, if knowing you are a piss ant pot head like I think you are, you undoubtedly also drink. So therefore, if you want smoking banned because it makes your nose go 'ew' you can rightly take your fist and shove it up your ass buddy. You're a god damn hypocrite. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
I heard about a pub in Eire where they allow smoking inside but only if you pay £1 (or the euro equivalent) to cover the cost of the fine. FELIPE NO |
My town(s) (B/CS, TX) just recently passed a smoking ban that kicks in Feb 1st I believe. No smoking in bars, restaurants, etc. What I find really silly is that this should be left up to the owners of the god damned establishments.
I'm not a smoker, but I really don't like how folk are curb-stomping smokers so crazily. Then again, I'm biased; I actually LIKE the smell of cigarette smoke What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
Hey, maybe you should try that thing Chie was talking about.
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My country did ban smoking ads, and I'm hearing that them politicians are trying to put an anti-smoking law. There are anti-smoking areas, usually public places, but for the most part people are pretty much smoking here and there. I guess being a 3rd world country, laws such as this don't apply, especially in rural areas and places outside the city.
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
It's just like beer, really; people who don't know much about it will say oh, I don't drink beer, it tastes awful. Yeah, because you're drinking awful beer! There's nowhere I can't reach. |
And no, I don't touch weed with a ten foot pole. It may not have any long-term health risks (although I'm not entirely sold on that point either), but everyone I've ever been around who smokes it is a fucking retard. Regardless if that has anything to do with the weed or not, I'd rather not be associated with that crowd. As for the drinking, I don't drink much or often. I brought up weed to contrast tobacco with an example of something that IS prosecuted and illegalized in the US for far less reason. Try to contain your need to run off with baseless assumptions and judgments in the future. How ya doing, buddy? |
One of the new regulations that we have at the daycare center that I work at is that when ever anyone goes out for a cigarette, they need to either change their shirt or wear a smock. When this was brought up at our big meeting in September, it stirred things up quite a bit among the smokers present as it just sounded like a nuisance. Luckily it doesn't really affect the center that I work at since none of us smoke (we have five centers in our area).
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Oink oink there you capitalist pig. Geeze, why should buisness owners have any say in the way they run their establisments? It's up to the state to come in and save us from ourselves...and corporations, and greed, and oil, and we need to find another bandwagon to jump on and, and, and...Somone should make some "organic" cigarettes that smelled like burt's bees and sell them at wild oats so we wouldn't have an issue. I have plenty of friends that smoke who I wish would quit, but ultimately, it's a vice/pleasure that they choose. Business owners used to be able to choose if they allowed smoking at their place of business, but now they can't. The decision has been made for them for the sake of the "greater good." The result: a bunch of anxiety ridden folks who need a smoke who will live forver who can't even set the rules at their own bar. -10 freedom points How ya doing, buddy? |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
FELIPE NO Nothing wrong with not being strong
Nothing says we need to beat what's wrong Nothing manmade remains made long That's a debt we can't back out of |
Bars never went non-smoking because nobody cares. Surprise surprise, people who frequent bars don't consider their health a priority.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Soon they're going to be placing laws that say you can't even smoke in your own home. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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