[General Discussion] Games we remember being the best

We all have them, the classics. So what made them classics and why are they remembered? would you want to see them remade with better graphics and systems? if so talk here.

My one game I would love to see remade bigger better and badder would be the Tie Fighter and X Wing games. The storylines in those were fantastic, and the space combat was intense. And in Tie Fighter when you get Darth Vader as your wingman it was just cool.

I loved TIE Fighter as well. Couldn't ever get into X Wing though, considering the difficulty was so much higher. (or seemed so at that age. :P )

I actually played a lot of Dark Reign, so i'm going to call that my classic. Sadly it never really caught on like Total Annihilation and StarCraft did. The engine was great but as a lot of people feel the game was a little lacking. Didn't stop me though. ^^

I'd mostly like to see an upped resolution version of this. I look over and see my roomie playing Total Annihilation at a super high resolution and it looks REAL good, despite being god knows how many years old. With Dark Reign i'm stuck with 640 x 480 which wouldn't be bad, except for that ungodly large building bar. ;_;

I totally hear you with Tie Fighter. I'd love to play it all over again, as it doesn't work for me anymore, being a DOS game and all : / Not to mention that my joystick is really squeaky too...I should invest in a new one some day...

Another game I'd love to see remade is Wolf from Sanctuary Woods. Unfortunately, they've since changed their company name and decided to make only educational crap, so I don't see any possiblity of it happening anytime soon. Still, Wolf was an awesome, unique game and an update would be awesome.

So many classics, so little time.

* Return to Zork should be remade with a sans-MIDI soundtrack, and with DVD-quality video. (Windows NT support would be nice, too.)

* Yes, TIE Fighter should be redone, but not as much as the ...

* Wing Commander games. Those games were addictive as hell for some reason.

* The original Unreal Tournament would be awesome to see in a new engine. I liked the gameplay of the original Unreal much more than that of its successors for some odd reason. It just seemed to flow better.

Finally, someone had to mention the not-quite-as-old ...

* Final Fantasy VII should be remade. (Maybe I should say it should be finished first, then remade.) You've all seen the PS3 FFVII “tech demo” that's been floating around the internet from E3.

(Return to Zork remake ... please? At least Zork Grand Inquisitor 2 that now seems less likely than Duke Nukem Forever? No? Damn ...)

A good Duke Nukem game would be awesome. I know there were others made after 3D, but none from what I saw had the same fun about it as 3D did. Shadow Warrior came fairly close, but that was just another game of theirs with the same general idea.


....I miss Descent 1 and 2.

Sierra's quest catalog was sheer gaming bliss: King's Quest, Police Quest, Quest for Glory, Leisure Suit Larry and the rest. These were the best of the best in 80's and 90's adventure gaming, and unlike the equally commendable efforts from Lucasarts, they encompassed a broader range of genres. There are some titles I'd consider duds, like the first two King's Quests, Larry 5 and Laura Bow 2, but most of the games are still worth playing today.

Gabriel Knight in particular is not to be missed. The writing in those games is better than a lot of novels I've read.

I'd rather not see remakes, since part of their charm is in the presentation and following how the gameplay evolved (or devolved, depending on how you feel about text parsers) as the series progressed. Fixing the buggier games like Quest for Glory 4 would be a bigger priority for me.

A few I wouldent mind seeing being made again were:
1. Legend of Dragoon
2. Wolfenstein
3. ANY Commander Keen game
4. and Jagged Allience: Deadly Games (A rather uncommen game)

Assuming there is NO change to story line, FFVII is the only one that comes to mind.

Some games just seem better in their 8-bit glory, though. Contra should be left as-is.

My entire PC video game life started with Warcraft 2, continued with many years of non-stop Starcraft, and a nice healthy Diablo 2 addiction later on. Some games I played a little through years were CS and some Quake ones in the late 90's.

The Ultimate DOOM Beating the fourth episode was painfully hard on Ultra Violence, but it was the most rewarding thing I have ever done on an fps (Episode 4 easily has the best level design of the DOOM games).
StarCraft I waited until 2004 to finally beat the three original campaigns, but it was very fun and surprisingly easy. Also I learned the Zerg is my favorite race.

Hell, for me, Deus Ex was pretty awesome for me. Sure, a second one has been remade but hell, the original was way more better.

It is kind of sad that the quest/adventure game as kind of fallen by the wayside. They didn't just used to be good, it was basically the best genre of games. If we could have new versions of games like Monkey Island that were as good as the originals, I'd become a PC gamer again, I think. Everyone is working on MMOs, which is pretty frustrating for people like me who like games with a good story and good writing.

Sierra was a great company for adventure games. I had pretty much everything they put out in the late 90s. I agree that the adventure game market is pretty stagnant nowadays. Not withstanding Myst and some others that keep popping up.

Originally Posted by BlueMikey

It is kind of sad that the quest/adventure game as kind of fallen by the wayside. They didn't just used to be good, it was basically the best genre of games. If we could have new versions of games like Monkey Island that were as good as the originals, I'd become a PC gamer again, I think. Everyone is working on MMOs, which is pretty frustrating for people like me who like games with a good story and good writing.

I haven't played many Adventure games, but I must say Soul Reaver (at least the first time around) was a great adventure game (though it was action heavy). So far I haven't really gotten into the Ultimas or the Fallout series.

The original Command and Conquer, there is just something appealing about watching the enemy run over my machine gunners with a battle bike only to crush the bike with my Med. tank.

Legend of Zelda, OoT; Great 3d adaptation of the Zelda series, got the flavor and settings of the world just right (for its time and its limited graphics cababilities)

Finally Starcraft, everyone already knows starcraft is great so I'm not going to waste keystrokes typing out why.

The original 8-bit graphics Civilization game.
That rocked my youung world.
Also, Might & Magic: Clouds of Xeen, and Darkside of Xeen.
My brother and I used to love going to my cousins' house just so we could play that game. We finally managed to find some copies of them in "The Ultimate RPG Archives" which had all sorts of old-school rpg games... but nothing compared to C of X and D of X.
Unfortunately, I could not find any way of playing those games on any of the newer computers. I guess programs that were programmed for a pentium 1 chip are not usable anymore.

The most fun I've had on my PC is a number of Lucasart's adventure games. The highest being Grim Fandango, followed by the Monkey Island games. Now, the remake discussion..

The term remake in the videogame world I see as a bit superficial. When someone mentions remake they usually mean it to be a port, from an old system to a new one, with better graphics, a few extras, anything of that nature. Take The Twin Snakes, Resident Evil as examples. I say, largely, what's the point? This category, especially remakes of recent games, don't really serve any purpose other for the people who missed out last time. At odds with the remake in the film form, where a story is told in a different way, using different techniques, maybe even a different genre. Take Shakespeare's original Othello and the transformed version taking place in modern day London, starring a black Othello and bringing themes of racism into the mix. Even the modern version of Romeo and Juliet. People here who say they'd only want FF7 remade with no underlying changes seem to be stuck in a rut.

Probably standing as the best recent remake I can think of at the moment is Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. Ignoring the sequels, it took the best bits of the original, the story's bare bones (maybe not even that) and adapted it into a modern videogame. And for anyone who saw 'I, Mario' over at OCR, they know what I'm talking about in terms of an intriguing remake concept.

Not trying to attack anyone. After all, this is a discussion.

X-Com: UFO Defense is a classic game that I will always be fond of. It's my favourite PC game of all time.

If they remade it, all they need to do is to give it a massive graphical overhaul and improve some of the nuances. The gameplay mechanics was already close to being perfect -- it was way ahead of its time.

Those LucasArts point-and-click adventures were hella awesome. I loved the Monkey Island series. Maniac Mansion, Loom, Indiana Jones, Zak, etc. Those highlighted my PC gaming back in the day.