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[Wii] Virtual Console & WiiWare Games - Doing wonders for illegal emulation since 2007
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 01:26 PM #351 (permalink) of 1065
The only game I regret wasting 500 points on is super mario. If I hadn't bought that back then, I'd still have that many points plus the points that is left of what i have now and the other 200 points. Oh well, Super Metroid it is. Shinobi'll have to wait. I wonder why part 1 wasn't added first (not 2 obviously since that came out for gamegear..) .
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 01:32 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 11:32 AM #352 (permalink) of 1065
Revenge of Shinobi's on Genesis.

the first Shinobi's arcade/SMS.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 05:55 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 01:55 PM #353 (permalink) of 1065
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 06:10 PM #354 (permalink) of 1065
Never played anything from the Shinobi series so I really don't care about that one. Super Metroid, I'll download so I can see why everyone likes it so much.

chato, thanks for taking over. I won't be able to do these VC Mondays much anymore, because I don't get home till 6pm.

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 09:55 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 07:55 AM #355 (permalink) of 1065
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 05:31 PM #356 (permalink) of 1065
It's funny...

I bought Metroid 3 on the VC expecting the same great game I played and loved on the SNES.
But I just can't stop thinking that the GBA's Zero Mission is way better. I don't know what it is. Until this point in time, I used to hold Metroid 3 in the highest regard of the Metroid-verse, and now it's a close second to Zero Mission.

Maybe I'm having difficulty in having fun because I'm using the GC controller? I guess I'll try using my PS2-to-GC adapter and hook a real controller up and see how that feels.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 02:46 AM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 12:46 AM #357 (permalink) of 1065
Being able to play classics like Super Metroid on my TV without combing eBay was one of the reasons I wanted a Wii so bad. Now I only need some quality Square titles to truly be happy (Secret of Mana and Mario RPG, I'm looking at you.)

Matt: The Classic Controller is a pretty close match to the old SNES one. I've read some comments that say the D-pad is too sensitive and makes pulling off certain moves difficult, but I really haven't had any trouble. If you're going to be playing lots of VC games (especially SNES) it's a pretty good investment.

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Old Aug 24, 2007, 12:00 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 08:00 AM #358 (permalink) of 1065
Not to be hating on the VC or anything, but I've always found the easiest way to play games on my TV was to hook a laptop running an emulator up to my TV and use a USB controller converter. If you don't have a laptop and have a PC in the same room, just get a really long s-video cable. It worked great for me while at school, because I didn't want to bring out my SNES, its cables, and all of the games I own because I had such limited space, but I was able to play games just as if I had the real cartridges with me.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 04:56 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 01:56 PM #359 (permalink) of 1065
I never took my Classic Controller out of its case and returned it a few weeks ago. I find that the price for games is just too high, more than I'd pay at least, and I hate how long it takes them to get a game to release.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 08:04 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2007, 06:04 PM #360 (permalink) of 1065
I don't think I'm gonna get the classic controller; the GC one'll hopefully do the job well enough, anyway.

And reaver, I'd hope that the official VC system would actually be better than any emulator; about no emulator does sound and music emulation of the SNES correctly. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. Also, if 'Nigma ever gets released, that'd mean hearing it for real.
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Old Aug 24, 2007, 10:53 PM #361 (permalink) of 1065
I only use my Classic Controller if I'm too lazy to whip out the sensor bar. Because I have to pack it up so often it's a hassle trying to keep that sensor bar in place.

And if I'm only playing a Gamecube game, I don't really need to waste time whipping out the bar, so I just use the Classic Controller to move around.

On top of that, for some games I found it easier to use the the Classic Controller instead of the Gamecube controller. Mario Kart and Paper Mario seem to top my list on that. And anyone who downloaded the Street Fighter games, I'd figure that would be easier, since the GC has an unholy control pad and button. scheme.

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Old Aug 25, 2007, 09:53 AM #362 (permalink) of 1065
I got a Classic Controller the other day, solely because I was buying Super Metroid and Paper Mario. I'll probably use it for other VC games now that I have it, mainly for two reasons: Wireless [my setup isn't really suitable to play games unless I have an extension cord for a GC controller,] and... Well, as Chaotic said, the GC controller pad sucks, and the button scheme can get pretty annoying.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:14 PM #363 (permalink) of 1065
Well after a lame update from SSBB, there is nothing great coming for the VC but maybe one.

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Feel free to throw hate comments. BoF 2 was another rpg game I stopped playing years ago.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:42 PM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 09:42 PM #364 (permalink) of 1065
And reaver, I'd hope that the official VC system would actually be better than any emulator; about no emulator does sound and music emulation of the SNES correctly. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
Well, prepare to be disappointed.

Most VC titles suffer from a whole bunch of technical problems; if you've played the original games on their original console, the experience doesn't even come anywhere close.

Obviously, Nintendo is only able to charge ridiculous prices for this crap because there are people stupid enough to pay for it. "Retro gaming" is overrated.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:46 PM #365 (permalink) of 1065
What technical problems are you referring to? I haven't had any issues with a single VC game I've downloaded so far, except for Metroid not allowing me to enter a password for some reason.

As for this week's games, I might download BoF2. I have the first BoF on SNES, but never gave the second one a try.
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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:51 PM #366 (permalink) of 1065
What technical problems are you referring to? I haven't had any issues with a single VC game I've downloaded so far, except for Metroid not allowing me to enter a password for some reason.
What do you mean, "what technical problems"? I told you about two of the problems I've had. In Actraiser, the first town contains a bunch of gibberish, and if I try to build further, the game freezes; using earthquake didn't solve the problem. In Kirby's Dream Course, the brightness level keeps going up and down (especially when I hit the Y button to look around the course). Neither error makes the games unplayable, but they're certainly annoying.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 03:58 PM Local time: Aug 27, 2007, 09:58 PM #367 (permalink) of 1065
What technical problems are you referring to?
- PAL optimized games suffering from major slowdown
- Display errors when using component cables (due to non-supported 240p resolution)
- No Rumble Pak support for N64 games
- Pixelated bitmaps in N64 games
- No support for Controller Pak only games
- No controller configuration/remapping options
- Distorted image on 16:9 displays (needs manual switch to 4:3)
- No analog button support for GC controller
- Poor sound emulation for SNES games

These are just a few of the problems I've been encountering. I guess you can easily overlook these if you're not asking for a 100% true to original experience or have never played the originals, but for someone looking for "perfect emulation" these things are major disappointments.

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Old Aug 27, 2007, 04:00 PM #368 (permalink) of 1065
Originally Posted by nuttyturnip
What do you mean, "what technical problems"? I told you about two of the problems I've had. In Actraiser, the first town contains a bunch of gibberish, and if I try to build further, the game freezes; using earthquake didn't solve the problem. In Kirby's Dream Course, the brightness level keeps going up and down (especially when I hit the Y button to look around the course). Neither error makes the games unplayable, but they're certainly annoying.
Well, the Actraiser issue seemed extremely minor and no one else who downloaded it seemed to have the same problem. The brightness issue is pretty terrible, but it's still a far cry from "Most VC titles suffer from a whole bunch of technical problems."
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