[PS3] PlayStation 3 Fan Noise. Annoyingly loud, ain't it?

Most definately. Last thing a person wants on their new HDTV is a HUD burn-in of an old NES or SNES game. heh heh

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Most definately. Last thing a person wants on their new HDTV is a HUD burn-in of an old NES or SNES game. heh heh

That's my recurring nightmare...

I didn't know burn-in was a phenomenon that was likely to occur on HDTV. I actually thought it was a characteristic of CRT screens.

It's a long term effect for CRTs. However with LCDs the play time of such stationary things is an hour before having to worry. Or at least this seems to be the common belief.

How far that is from statistical fact I'm sure is something that Megalith would know. However I do not dare to prove the myth right or wrong using my own set. So I stick to the 1 hour rule. Even though I'm usually pretty hard pressed to play any single old-school game for anything more then 40minutes so it's not usually something that I normally have to keep an eye on.

has anyone's ps3 froze? I just got one and it froze like 5 times already, twice when i was trying to update motorstorm, twice on the xmb and once when i was playing the timeshift demo. My ps3 is in a pretty well ventilated place, theres a lot of room for it to breath and it happens any time, not just after long periods of use.

Yeah, I think one other person had their PS3 freeze a couple times on the XMB a couple pages back. I think it has to do with one of the recent updates.

Having played TimeShift myself perhaps your system was just trying to do you a favour

I myself however also had a problem playing motorstorm. What I had to do was go into where the game caches are stored and delete the older version of the game (not your save file). This caused the game to default back to V1.0 and then update from there which worked fine from that point. So give that a shot and see what happens.

is it on game data utility? then i've already tried that, and this is my first time updating motorstorm so i can play online. it's the one that came with hte 80gb ps3, is there a difference between that and the retail version?

LCDs don't suffer from image burn-in, this is only an issue with Plasma screens (and even then its only a major issue with older Plasma screesn). LCDs can develop afterimages or what they call image persistence but the ghosting will disappear if you just shut off the screen for a bit or watch moving images for a while. You pretty much cannot do any permanent damage to a LCD screen with static images unless you leave some image on all the time for days straight to where the liquid crystal will form a memory. But again this takes days, not hours of use to produce. I've only seen this once and this was on an LCD TV we used at our work to display stock information. The boarders used in the stock display finally burned in after a few weeks of being left on continuously displaying that same template.

Even now that's not a serious issue with current plasma technology. I heard it's still possible, but you have to cooperate on destroying a perfectly fine and new HDTV...

Originally Posted by Tafer

Even now that's not a serious issue with current plasma technology. I heard it's still possible, but you have to cooperate on destroying a perfectly fine and new HDTV...

Yeah, pixel orbiting (monitors all pixels on the screen and quickly moves static images from one pixel to another) which is used in Plasmas 6th gen and above pretty much removes the possibility of image burn-in from say a broadcast logo or a video game HUD, but there are still issues with uneven wear on Plasma screens if you view a lot of 4:3 content or such with large black bars constantly. This isn't really burn-in but people tend to group it together since its a similar effect. What is really happening is with Plasma displays, black is actually made by removing all voltage from the pixel unlike with LCD so in say a 4:3 picture on plasma the middle area will become dimmer due to natural wear quicker than the black bar areas so you end up with 19:9 screens with uneven brightness levels across the picture.

So it seems that LCD don't suffer from many issues is this correct?

Basically, yes. LCD screens are pretty resiliant to issues like that, they don't have real burn-in like CRTs and Plasmas and they don't have the colorwheel or bulb burnout problems of DLP. They also use a lot less energy and produce less heat than almost all of the alternatives.

Downsides are mainly ghosting with lower quality/higher refresh rate sets and being locked to a single native resolution (so they have to scale everything to the standard resolution instead of being able to change their resolution like CRTs, so some things may appear blurrier on them). Also there's occasionally dead pixels, but that's usually pretty minor.

Originally Posted by espressivo

has anyone's ps3 froze? I just got one and it froze like 5 times already, twice when i was trying to update motorstorm, twice on the xmb and once when i was playing the timeshift demo. My ps3 is in a pretty well ventilated place, theres a lot of room for it to breath and it happens any time, not just after long periods of use.

Uhhh, welcome to my world. I had the same issue with my new Ps3. It froze everywhere. I tried everything to make it work, but nothing happened. I usually got like a "matrix screen" after it froze.

I had to send it back. It had a defective GPU, so there was nothing I could do about it.

The post of my problem is HERE

oh, mine is nothing like that, the image just freezes while audio plays normally, and you can't do anything with the controller, so the only choice is to turn off the system. I'm not sure if it's that big of a problem, but if it happens more often then I think I'd be returning my ps3.

Originally Posted by Solis

Basically, yes. LCD screens are pretty resiliant to issues like that, they don't have real burn-in like CRTs and Plasmas and they don't have the colorwheel or bulb burnout problems of DLP. They also use a lot less energy and produce less heat than almost all of the alternatives.

Downsides are mainly ghosting with lower quality/higher refresh rate sets and being locked to a single native resolution (so they have to scale everything to the standard resolution instead of being able to change their resolution like CRTs, so some things may appear blurrier on them). Also there's occasionally dead pixels, but that's usually pretty minor.

I heard (haven't seen it in action), that 120hz screen do a great step on the right direction... can anyone confirm this?

The only error I ever got so far from my PS3 is when I loaded my game of Assassins Creed is that it suddenly showed me the "Your game cannot be loaded, your disc might be dirty" screen.

Originally Posted by Tafer

Even now that's not a serious issue with current plasma technology. I heard it's still possible, but you have to cooperate on destroying a perfectly fine and new HDTV...

I got an LCD and a Plasma TV, the Plasma is in the living room and the LCD is in my room which I use for gaming. My plasma tv is a newer model and yes pause it for a really long time or just the logo of the channel and it will fade in. It's not a real problem that you would have to get it fixed or anything, theres an option in the TV menu that fixes the fade in so I dont have a problem with that.

I prefer Plasma over LCD for both movies and gaming since it looks better, but I just use my LCD for my games.

My next TV will definitely be a 1080p plasma. At the end of the day, it's really all about black levels, and plasma sets generally offer the best.

Alternatively, there's LCOS, which is what I own now. Price-to-size ratio, pixel fill, commendable scaling and proper deinterlacing (on my model, anyway) are just some of the benefits. Black level is more than acceptable, but like most current technologies, it's walking the line between crush and greyish blacks.

I wish they would have spent a little more time with flat-screen 16x9 CRTs. With a little better engineering, they probably could have remedied the whole "curved corners" problem (inability of the gun to reach extreme edges) with most sets...especially on Samsungs...but that's probably because Samsung celebrates the usage of junk parts.

As for LCD, I had a particular love for my Sony KDL-V2500 since it allowed me to physically place a center channel speaker in the proper spot (tweeters aligned with L/R monitors), as the LCD was light enough to sit on top of it...but I couldn't imagine watching something like Batman Begins or playing The Darkness with one.

Sony has stopped making Plasma TV's right? I'm thinking of getting a plasma TV maybe next year to play games on. Something arround 36" inches maybe, but now is 1080p even worth the extra money it if it's a 36" TV? I read on another forum that it's only worth getting a 1080p TV if it's a really big TV.