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 Member 205 Level 22.32 Mar 2006 
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You have come in with this attitude like you're a know-it-all when it comes to online gaming and i have one thing to say. PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP. Most of the people here who have complained about the lag are veteran online gamers who know how to get the most out of their connection and optimize the shit to flawless performance on nearly every game they play.... but Brawl.
Last edited by Iwata : Apr 9, 2008 at 07:54 PM.
Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
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 Member 80 Level 45.85 Mar 2006
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BigCN, if you honestly think this is more the fault of the service provider or bandwidth one has allocated, you're beyond stupid. You've entered into a realm of impossibly frightening retardation that borders on the type Slayer X was showing before he got himself banned from here. For someone who seems to harp on other people not knowing what they are speaking of, you certainly trip all over yourself a lot.
Since there's clearly no arguing with a fanboy moron such as yourself, I'll let the topic drop. I clearly can't make you think that this isn't acceptable. You seem to be happy with being shit on, so I'll leave you be. However, this should be taken as a warning for everyone in general, as I'm just going to reinforce something that should have been apparent recently. Making up shit and spurting it out is not going to work to anyone's favour. It didn't work for Lix, it didn't work for Slayer, and it won't work for you. All it ends up with in the end is thread and forum bans. Why this thread generates the worst of the fucking worst on this forum is beyond me. I should close it. Give me a reason not to, folks. 
Last edited by Outrunner : Apr 9, 2008 at 08:07 PM.
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Member 294 Level 31.22 Mar 2006
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I agree that some people bought the game for the online play (maybe they have no friends or something) and it is damn annoying when it doesn't work right. For those of you who bought the game because you like the game physics and you have nerd friends willing to come over to game at their leisure, that's great. I am also quite pleased the game physics work well and the game is damn enjoyable to play with three other people in my living room. Just be aware that some people wanted the game solely for the online component and for them, this is a major disappointment. If you buy a game that promises a feature you expect that feature to work correctly. If a game requires near frame specific accuracy to play correctly, then a developer better ensure that this problem is solved before they send the product to market. Perhaps the argument can be made that they needed more development time? I guess you can't ever win.   |
Member 205 Level 22.32 Mar 2006
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I played with skills. Someone i know who has a decent connection. Can you people stop trying to justify the shitty netcode with banal excuses such as " it must be your connection ". There is also a little thing called localization that basically nulls the whole " but japan is faster " argument. Hell, when i was living in Japan just a couple of months ago. I actually had slower internet then i do now and i was living in one of the major metropolitan areas of Japan. Japan may have the fastest connections in the world, but the vast majority of the citizens don't have access to them.
Last edited by Iwata : Apr 9, 2008 at 09:36 PM.
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Member 1106 Level 19.32 Mar 2006
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Member 871 Level 20.90 Mar 2006
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What is this shit I am hearing crying over how the ISP is broken? I am completely and 100% sure this is the ISP's fault because your SUPER BARBIE LEGO MATTEL bullshit doesn't work, boo hoo
It could be Nintendo's online needs work. It could be the netcode is horrendous. It could be your connection blows horsenuts. It could be that the host is maintaining his connection by torturing a poor hamster on a wheel. That does not necessarily mean that it's the ISP's fault.  |
Member 267 Level 41.09 Mar 2006
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Preparations for the 5 mile hurdle jump are taking place here. Good luck! Additional Spam:
BIG ANNOYING TEXT: SARCASM IS REALLY NEAT. 
Last edited by Mo0 : Apr 9, 2008 at 11:34 PM.
Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
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Member 205 Level 22.32 Mar 2006
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Last edited by Iwata : Apr 9, 2008 at 11:32 PM.
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Member 294 Level 31.22 Mar 2006
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You know what the real problem with this thread is? People like you and these other assholes who would rather look for any stupid excuse to hop up on your soapboxes and bitch away instead of actually perusing a post. I'm speaking about both sides right now. If you had taken the time to consider what I was saying instead of bellowing away like an angry elephant, you would have been surprised to find out that I was actually agreeing with you and I was trying to tell these other idiots to quit being such fanboys. All this blathering about bad netcode vs connection speed is a pile of semantic BS and you know it. So you had trouble playing against Skills. If the bottleneck isn't at either of your ISPs then it is possibly occuring at the servers that are being used. I figured you of all people would actually have been intelligent enough to realize that 'having slow connection speed create lag while playing over the internet' is an obvious symptom of poor code. Most people are smart enough to know that if the packets of information are too big for the information pipeline available, the transfer of information is slowed down creating lag. Simple, right? Also, everyone including you must be aware that statistics are averages. You have to think that Nintendo may have looked at a graph similar to what Skills posted and designed the netcode for Brawl based on the average connection speeds available in Japan. They said they had little to no lag during their trial runs. Perhaps the testing conditions were not representative of the real world? Who knows what they were thinking? Perhaps another problem is that Nintendo does not have enough servers to deal with the online traffic created by Brawl? Yes, this also can be a problem with netcode because the information flow will be affected by whatever bottleneck occurs in the pipeline. Of course, there is also the possibility that their servers simply can't handle the demand placed on them by all the nerds wanting to 'smash it up' online. While I doubt the problem is this simple, it would be pretty funny if it was. So ya, I really am at a loss to how you conclude that speculation about the cause of lag equates to an attempt to defend Nintendo. I did imply that they are responsible for doing a crap job designing their online service in my last post.
[Edit] Geez, Mo0 and Garr just said in a few words what took me three paragraphs to articulate. I guess I am using poor code for communication.
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Member 1148 Level 21.64 Mar 2006
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*Ignores connection rage*
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Member 104 Level 33.65 Mar 2006
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Lmao, what is this SSE shit. Do I really have to go through and fight a dark version of EVERYONE before I can finish this? (Delicious overused plot devices, how I love them.)
Other than that it's been pretty cool to play. Not because it's anything stellar, but seeing a bunch of series cast members side-by-side (Ness rescuing Lucas, Ike and Marth tearing shit up) that would never otherwise interact with each other is pretty cool. This Great Maze shit can leave forever though, just like Rat. Leave Rat.  ~ Maria+Holic ~ Lesbian All Girls School Bullshit Anime #503 |
Member 104 Level 33.65 Mar 2006
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How do I acquired Chocobo. In before OWA is the final stage theme. No Materia. Sephiroth Only. ~ Maria+Holic ~ Lesbian All Girls School Bullshit Anime #503 |
Member 871 Level 20.90 Mar 2006
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Member 1148 Level 21.64 Mar 2006
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Speaking of SSE, they had an update showing off the story of SSE. Unfortunately, they still don't explain why the hell tabuu went through all of his effort. Even one sentence "because he is a bastard" would do, but NOOOOOOOOOOOO they don't even include that.
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