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[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD
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Old May 13, 2008, 06:09 PM #1176 (permalink) of 1533
Yeah that theatrical trailer was awesome, they REALLY need to try and get that trailer in US movie theaters. They should go all out for the marketing since it is the last game.
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Old May 13, 2008, 06:14 PM #1177 (permalink) of 1533
Yeah that theatrical trailer was awesome, they REALLY need to try and get that trailer in US movie theaters. They should go all out for the marketing since it is the last game.
I wonder if there are plans to put it in theaters, even though theres only a few weeks left until launch, it wouldn't hurt to put it in after for extra exposure (though for most people will put it as "meh" because its a vidya, I myself wouldn't mind at all).

As for the product placement, I don't mind it, it probably helped fund this game (a bit) to what we see it.
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Old May 13, 2008, 06:30 PM #1178 (permalink) of 1533
Yeah plus the product placement seems more fun and acceptable then most hollywood movies as they cram it in your face.
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Old May 13, 2008, 06:38 PM Local time: May 13, 2008, 04:38 PM #1179 (permalink) of 1533
Why do you think that?

What differentiates MGS's product placement from something like Iron Man's Audi stuff, for example? Why would it be more acceptable in this setting?

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Old May 13, 2008, 07:01 PM #1180 (permalink) of 1533
I don't know really... could be cause it's a game and I'm not used to it in a game? It just seems cooler in MGS4 then again product placement never bothered me as much as it seems to bother others. Or it could be my biased love for MGS4 hahah
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Old May 13, 2008, 07:03 PM #1181 (permalink) of 1533
Yeah that theatrical trailer was awesome, they REALLY need to try and get that trailer in US movie theaters. They should go all out for the marketing since it is the last game.
Ol' Kaz was at the completion event and said that Sony would be partnering with Konami for worldwide advertising including TV spots, trailers, bundles and PSN events including 3 days of MGS4 coverage.

Also GameStop/EBgames will be having a midnight launch for the game. So no worries about having to wait till the 13th for the game as apparently it'll be shipping from distro to EB/GS stores on June 6th.
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Old May 13, 2008, 07:05 PM Local time: May 13, 2008, 05:05 PM #1182 (permalink) of 1533
It happens quite often in games these days, actually. Perhaps it was just ineffective on you and you didn't notice it, though. *shrug*

I would hardly deem any product placement "cooler" than anything else, but to each their own, I suppose. I'd much rather have the thing without, but this is not as bad as it could have been, really. There's much worse examples of horrible product placement I can think of.

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Old May 13, 2008, 07:08 PM #1183 (permalink) of 1533
Product placement I believe is more common in Japanese games [Remember the FFIX CocaCola CM?] For us westerners, its more subliminal, and not exactly all "Ah ha! Snake drinks this energy drink! Drink it!"

It would be cool to see a trailer for the game in the theaters though I must say.

Also, is EB/GS the only people doing the 80 gig Bundle?
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Old May 13, 2008, 07:48 PM #1184 (permalink) of 1533
I guess i never noticed it in japanese games since I'm not familiar with their products. Also wtf at midnight launch I just pre-ordered the game at Gamestop yesterday and when I asked of a midnight launch he said no. Then again that's typical gamestop for ya
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Old May 13, 2008, 07:54 PM #1185 (permalink) of 1533
Thanks a lot for those music samples! I think they'll fit the game quite nicely. What is Untitled6, if you know? All the other ones had names associated with them once I loaded them into my player.
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Old May 13, 2008, 08:18 PM #1186 (permalink) of 1533
Also wtf at midnight launch I just pre-ordered the game at Gamestop yesterday and when I asked of a midnight launch he said no. Then again that's typical gamestop for ya
I think they just got the word today so try calling your GameStop again and see what they say now.

Thanks a lot for those music samples! I think they'll fit the game quite nicely. What is Untitled6, if you know? All the other ones had names associated with them once I loaded them into my player.
War Economy I believe.

Also, is EB/GS the only people doing the 80 gig Bundle?
I don't believe so since by the sounds of it it'll be a common SKU and not really a limited item. The "Gun Metal" PS3 on the other hand...
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Old May 13, 2008, 09:19 PM Local time: May 13, 2008, 06:19 PM #1187 (permalink) of 1533
EDIT: Yeah ok so now I'm back 8 hours later and the amount of awesomeness to go through is almost too much. So watching the trailer again...shit is still awesome and there's a ton of hidden details in there and even a shot where Snake looks...
Spoiler:
...like he's been run through the mill with the OCTOCAMO in shreds and all battered up. I also noticed during the scene when he asks Naomi how long hes got that in the shot when Naomi is wiping away a tear Snake is standing in the background topless and his age-ravaged back is exposed.
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How about the Snake vs Liquid showdown in Prague (at least I think it's Prague)? Looks like Liquid used Snake's own stun knife against him. I wonder if that's gonna be an actual CQC fight, or just a cut scene. EVA still the same biker fanatic as she was from her more youthful days, with Snake riding behind (another chase/escape sequence?). Ahh, young Snake looking to be a relevant part of the gameplay, and not just some bonus. Oh and revealing Lynda Jarvis' in game render.
Haha, man that trailer really did show too much in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if it popped up on the PSN before the games release. Probably even the week before to build up the hype. I'm interested in seeing what steps Sony will be taking to promote the game as well.

The official site is now up and running too at the following link:
METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS

Site takes awhile to load due to traffic but the bulk of it is made up of a VR game that earns you points to unlock more of the site including wallpapers and such as well as samples from the soundtrack. I've got the OST samples but if anyone else can help getting all the wallpapers in their maximum resolution it'd be appreciated!
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Also on the site you can listen to samples of the voice actors under the Characters section. Most noteworthy is Raiden given how different, and better, he sounds now.
Checking out the site, which is taking forever to load, I love Raiden's line "Jack is dead. Snake, I'm at your side", that was pretty cold. Huh, that actually makes me curious about his situation with Rose. Hopefully they tie up that knot as well.

According to the site, Sunny...
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...was indeed rescued from the Patriots by Raiden as some might have speculated from the concept art. I'm guessing this event had happend prior to MGS4, since it was revealed on the site. Also it says Naomi's role for Liquid was to develop a way to hijack the SOP control system. This must be what the SOP DESTAB in MGO was, which could used in the Base Mission mode.
Thanks for the samples too, though too bad they didn't included the good stuff, like the compositions used in the trailers. I really love that piece they used in the E3 07 trailer, especially after hearing it again the new trailer.

Oh and those PMC advertisements were, haha, really interesting.

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The game's intro that was shown at the actual event, cam version. Nothing spoilerific, it contains scenes we've all seen before (through the numerous trailers released). The only really differences is the music used (good stuff too, which we've heard from the trailers), and that there are credits with it. It was actually a pretty sweet opening for the game.

GameVideos.com - Metal Gear Solid 4 'Intro Gameplay' Video

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Old May 13, 2008, 09:47 PM Local time: May 13, 2008, 07:47 PM #1188 (permalink) of 1533
Whoa whoa whoa what the fuck. This thread just exploded over the past two days. I'm really trying to stay away from it, because I want this to be as spoiler free experience as possible as it was with MGS3. When I finally realized I was playing as Big Boss, I got giddy like a 5 year old school girl.

Those South America shots look absolutely amazing though - it's really refreshing to see some lush jungle and foliage. I was starting to get bored with the whole middle eastern stage.

Can't fucking wait. I wonder if they'll ever announce if they made any changes to MGO from the beta feedback...
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Old May 13, 2008, 11:23 PM #1189 (permalink) of 1533
Spoiler:
How about the Snake vs Liquid showdown in Prague (at least I think it's Prague)? Looks like Liquid used Snake's own stun knife against him. I wonder if that's gonna be an actual CQC fight, or just a cut scene. EVA still the same biker fanatic as she was from her more youthful days, with Snake riding behind (another chase/escape sequence?). Ahh, young Snake looking to be a relevant part of the gameplay, and not just some bonus. Oh and revealing Lynda Jarvis' in game render.
Haha, man that trailer really did show too much in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if it popped up on the PSN before the games release. Probably even the week before to build up the hype. I'm interested in seeing what steps Sony will be taking to promote the game as well.
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Yeah the snippet at the end of the Assassin's Solid trailer pretty much confirmed it's Prague and also we now know what the deal is with the blurry photo of the back of the display cover at GAME in Europe.


I'm hoping it'll be on this week's PSN update and pretty feasible too considering Konami's Gamer Day tomorrow which the PS Blog hinted at some surprises being in store. Honestly I thought this trailer contained less spoilers than the TGS '07 one main because this one seem to focus more on giving is a glimpse at the Eastern Europe location which we already knew about and the more spoilery stuff flashes by or really aren't as bad as TGS '07 when showing...
Spoiler:
..you as Snake controlling the old disused Metal Gear REX getting ready to take on Metal Gear RAY at Shadow Moses island.


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Checking out the site, which is taking forever to load, I love Raiden's line "Jack is dead. Snake, I'm at your side", that was pretty cold. Huh, that actually makes me curious about his situation with Rose. Hopefully they tie up that knot as well.

According to the site, Sunny...
Spoiler:
...was indeed rescued from the Patriots by Raiden as some might have speculated from the concept art. I'm guessing this event had happend prior to MGS4, since it was revealed on the site. Also it says Naomi's role for Liquid was to develop a way to hijack the SOP control system. This must be what the SOP DESTAB in MGO was, which could used in the Base Mission mode.
The SOP Destabiliser was awesome! Nothing better than planting that thing and then seeing the opposing team just stop and start freaking out allowing you to just walk up to them and pop 'em in the head.

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Thanks for the samples too, though too bad they didn't included the good stuff, like the compositions used in the trailers. I really love that piece they used in the E3 07 trailer, especially after hearing it again the new trailer.
Well they're just samples and the OST will be released in 2 weeks anyway and no doubt somebody here at GFF will have it ripped and ready in no time.

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Oh and those PMC advertisements were, haha, really interesting.

EDIT:
The game's intro that was shown at the actual event, cam version. Nothing spoilerific, it contains scenes we've all seen before (through the numerous trailers released). The only really differences is the music used (good stuff too, which we've heard from the trailers), and that there are credits with it. It was actually a pretty sweet opening for the game.

GameVideos.com - Metal Gear Solid 4 'Intro Gameplay' Video
Yeah I think the theatrical trailer will be the last piece of footage for me. The PMC ads will spoil the opening movie if I watch them and I'd rather experience the opening as I play it in HD on my set. I mean it's only 29 days away...!
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Old May 13, 2008, 11:47 PM Local time: May 14, 2008, 08:47 AM #1190 (permalink) of 1533
Yeah yea you can wait, there isnt something really special or spoilerific about ads though.

Anyways it is taking while to load the official site , so if there is anything special in making section, anything?
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BTW music is awesome, any more tracks, did you cut them or they are this long on site by default?

drebin and sixth one are really cool i wish they would be long.

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Old May 14, 2008, 03:38 AM Local time: May 14, 2008, 12:38 AM #1191 (permalink) of 1533
I'm hoping it'll be on this week's PSN update and pretty feasible too considering Konami's Gamer Day tomorrow which the PS Blog hinted at some surprises being in store. Honestly I thought this trailer contained less spoilers than the TGS '07 one main because this one seem to focus more on giving is a glimpse at the Eastern Europe location which we already knew about and the more spoilery stuff flashes by or really aren't as bad as TGS '07 when showing...
Spoiler:
..you as Snake controlling the old disused Metal Gear REX getting ready to take on Metal Gear RAY at Shadow Moses island.
Haha, when you put it that way, TGS 07 definitely had the biggest one. I guess that's a good way to look at it, but before seeing the new trailer I honestly didn't expect the east euro location to have that large of a part in the game (well, at least it appears that way). Heh, though that's probably because all we've ever seen in the current trailers and footage were the middle east and south america locations.

Just a side thought on the TGS 07 trailer and the new trailer...
Spoiler:
What they should have done instead of the Rex vs Ray scene in the TGS07 trailer was show the Snake and Liquid confrontation in Prague. Heh, that would have had an equally large impact and lead people to thinking their final encounter concludes in Prague instead of Shadow Moses. Then KP could have really surprised the players when they actually play and beat the game with the Shadow Moses location and the battle of the metal gears fight.

The SOP Destabiliser was awesome! N