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Old May 27, 2008, 11:07 PM #1301 (permalink) of 1533
What has happened to the KP report? Have there been any new updates since Session 86?
No, the KP Report was put on indefinite hold a few months ago due to crunch time in getting the game finished. There is a new report in the game though since you can find and listen to one of Ryan's podcasts on Snake's iPod.

HideChan, the Japanese report, is still going on though with Kojima showing up on a couple of occasions. Actually he was on their a few weeks ago discussing the issue of how the American press and what happened with EDGE magazine and such.

EDIT: Another review is in courtesy of GamePro - 5/5. Some select quotes along with their pros and cons:
Quote:
Every once in a long while, a game will come along and change all the rules. Final Fantasy 7 transformed the RPG genre. Resident Evil helped create a new sub-category of gaming - survival horror - and Grand Theft Auto 3 single-handedly reshaped the gaming landscape. And now comes Metal Gear Solid 4, a game whose potential influence on the current state of gaming is nothing short of tectonic.
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"[MGS4] sets new standards for graphics, sound, gameplay, and storytelling, and it may be years before it is equaled, let alone surpassed. You will not play a better game this year -- maybe even this decade. If you own a PS3, buy this game the day it comes out. And if you don't own a PS3, well, you better start saving your nickels and dimes."

Pros: One of the greatest games ever created, it satisfies in almost every way possible.

Cons: "Stress" concept is initially hard to grasp, a tutorial for newcomers would of been appreciated.
EGM won't have the review in their new issue since they missed the deadline but the crew did talk about it and the quick point version of what they said...
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Jeremy:

- MGS4 represents the truest expression of the "Metal Gear" concept the world will ever see.
- Bittersweet that the series is over but at least it goes out in style.
- Controls a welcome addtion but he wishes for a cover system.
- Different approach to the game you dont have to be stealthy if you dont want to, infact many big firefights dont allow for stealth.
- Environments larger than MGS3
- You will find out what "La-li-lu-le-lo" means.
- Usually played stealthly in MGS games but killing people is so effective in this game that he got a high kill count.
- Having Drebin on call for ammo makes resource management less of an issue, also offers ridiculous number of possible weapon choices. But best to trick out a few favorites.

Andrew:

- New camera is a relief.
- Didn't mind the lack of dedicated cover system, to busy rushing into battle and getting Drebin points
- Game really encourages run and gun approach, but you can still play both ways.
- New gear and systems like octo camo and MK2 are great.

Matt:

- Played game on easy and hardest mode. On easy you can run around and not fear anything.
- On harder modes he really found the need for cover, wished the expanded the wall hug system they have.
- Other than that new control scheme does a great job, but does not feel it matches those of Splinter Cell.

Shane:

- Loved Act 1's unpredictable pacing, it ditches the usual hand holding tutorial.
- "The game contsnatly toys with your expectations right before exceeding them"
- Commends MGS4 "shockingly well-realized environments"
- "As always, Kojima productions dedication to stuffing the game with oddles of minutiae elevates the artistry to a level rarely reached in gaming."
Courtesy of NeoGAF.

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Old May 28, 2008, 01:09 AM Local time: May 27, 2008, 10:09 PM #1302 (permalink) of 1533
Some details I seemed to of missed is John Cygan's voiceover and in that scene you can see Vamp dancing in between the marching Gekkos. Something you can also see clearly in the better resolution....
I knew that voice sounded familiar, I wonder what his role in the game is.
The last piece of new info from the interview involves a returning character that I'll spoiler mark but it's not a major character and somebody who is apart of Snake's support team:
Spoiler:
Rose is back as a psychological counselor with a combat stress platoon. You can call her for psychological advice in the game where she'll give you tips on how to handle Snake's Stress and Psyche gauges and helping to spike the former by asking what day it is.
Spoiler:
Heh, at first I thought this was going to be about Mei Ling, but it's also good to know Rose is making a return (was actually hoping for it). This should give us some insight on how Raiden has changed.

Not sure if you guys caught it now given the other wealth of info in the post but that "Metal Gear Saga" theme on YouTube link....well it looks like it's legit considering that the Japanese iTunes store has the entire soundtrack up for grabs and you can sample each track including the above posted.
MGS4 OST via Japanese iTunes Store

Glad to see "Old Snake" is some of the TGS '06 trailer music. "Mobs Alive" is also the music that was featured in the E3 2K7 trailer and among my favorites. Glad its on the CD! Listening to all these samples has my very happy I purchased the OST along with hearing them in the game.
"Mobs Alive" is the first track I'm gonna jump to. Can't wait to hear it in its entirety. After that it'll be "Atonement", love that track too. "Metal Gear Saga" was really good, I really liked that cue from the MGS3 version of the theme. Though, it's still not the true MGS theme, nothing can replace the established theme IMO.

Oh and mine just shipped early this morning as well (I think I got the e-mail around 4am). Haha, if I'm real lucky I'll
see it in the mail on Friday. But knowing from previous experiences with CDJapan, that's not likely gonna happen. I always seem to have to pay duty taxes on items I purchase from them.
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Old May 28, 2008, 02:08 AM Local time: May 27, 2008, 11:08 PM #1303 (permalink) of 1533
The last piece of new info from the interview involves a returning character that I'll spoiler mark but it's not a major character and somebody who is apart of Snake's support team:
Spoiler:
Rose is back as a psychological counselor with a combat stress platoon. You can call her for psychological advice in the game where she'll give you tips on how to handle Snake's Stress and Psyche gauges and helping to spike the former by asking what day it is.
Spoiler:
I had almost forgot about her until i watched the special DVD we got for pre-ordering, though i loved MGS2, i do admit her codec sessions with Raiden did get on my nerves.. maybe it was cause i was playing 10 hours straight with no sleep. But good to hear she's still around.

While somewhat on the subject i'd really like to see how this "stress" factor plays in effect, i'm hoping it won't get totally in the way. But MGS3 introduced something new like fixing wounds and such i thought was pretty cool, hopefully maybe its along the lines of this but a bit more introduced.

"- Loved Act 1's unpredictable pacing, it ditches the usual hand holding tutorial."
I assume he's talking about the beginning of the game where Snake is in a cloak somewhat and his gun is jammed because its an ID-tagged one and you get seamless cutscene and gameplay combinations going. So it's utter chaos with the hail of gunfires and gekkos moving about.. i absolutely love what they did beginning it like that without a tutorial as stated and so you're just trying to escape everything. More games should be like this i can only think of a handful, just brilliant to absorb you in.

On a side note.. i had a dream this morning were i had Octocamo on and i'd drop to floors and hear it kick in, it was cool but weird lol. I want this game now!
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Old May 28, 2008, 07:39 AM Local time: May 28, 2008, 04:39 PM #1304 (permalink) of 1533
Spoiler:
according to Famitsu this is Mei Ling
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/ar...1004435973.jpg

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Old May 28, 2008, 08:36 AM Local time: May 28, 2008, 01:36 PM #1305 (permalink) of 1533
Oh my god, CUTENESS! I wanna BANG you!

Can't believe I'm being hit on by the famous Solid Snake etc.

Spoiler:
How she's changed trades from nerdy girl making a SOLITON Radar, possibly in her basement, to being... captain? I'm very curious about

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Old May 28, 2008, 10:45 AM 2 #1306 (permalink) of 1533
If you guys want the OST here's the first CD courtesy of GoldenEyeRa at TUS:
MGS4 OST - Disc 1

Of course I got it just so I can listen to "Old Snake" and "Mobs Alive".

Here's 2 tracks from the 2nd CD - "Father & Son" and "Atonement". Both sound fucking so good. Plus a third track "One More Reboot":
Atonement
Father & Son
One More Reboot
While somewhat on the subject i'd really like to see how this "stress" factor plays in effect, i'm hoping it won't get totally in the way. But MGS3 introduced something new like fixing wounds and such i thought was pretty cool, hopefully maybe its along the lines of this but a bit more introduced.
Stress gauge seems something like the stamina gauge but it only rises when Snake is under alot of stress like being in the thick of battle or even having to navigate through dark, tight tunnels especially if you're claustophobic....which apparently Snake is. If the Stress gauge gets too high then you can either have a cigarette or whip out the girlie magazine to help lower the gauge.

Also new Famitsu Wave is out which contains a new trailer as well as a page revealing the earlier returning character for Snake's support team along with another returning character that I'm pretty sure sexninja may of posted but without any foreword before his spoiler I have no fucking idea. Either way here's the Famitsu scan:
Spoiler:


Also thought you guys might get a kick out of this..

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Old May 28, 2008, 11:15 AM Local time: May 28, 2008, 08:15 PM #1307 (permalink) of 1533
Spoiler:
and some people on other forums were already getting ON for naomi, for me rosemary looks much more my type, man she has turned much sexier.
and wtf with the name in scan?

it says mailing, if i remember correctly it was meiling?

i hope solidus comes back too, to make things all moe dramatic




Those second disc links giving me errors?
anyone else having problem?
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Old May 28, 2008, 02:55 PM Local time: May 28, 2008, 10:55 AM #1308 (permalink) of 1533
Haha! What the fuck? That's a pretty funny screencap. I wonder if there's a video online.

As for the spoiler in Simo's post:

Spoiler:
Is it just me or do they look too much alike? Blegh, maybe it's because their hair looks similar.

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Old May 28, 2008, 05:21 PM Local time: May 28, 2008, 02:21 PM #1309 (permalink) of 1533
If you guys want the OST here's the first CD courtesy of GoldenEyeRa at TUS:
MGS4 OST - Disc 1

Of course I got it just so I can listen to "Old Snake" and "Mobs Alive".

Here's 2 tracks from the 2nd CD - "Father & Son" and "Atonement". Both sound fucking so good. Plus a third track "One More Reboot":
Atonement
Father & Son
One More Reboot
Awesome thanks for the links. "Desperate Chase" is another great composition by HGW. The man can write great chase music, "Sidecar - Escape From The Fortress" and "Sidecar - On The Rail Bridge -" were my favorite tracks from MGS3 and "Desperate Chase" is easily becoming another one of my favorites. Oh and the full version of "Love Theme" is really really good too.

Man, I wish they didn't release the soundtrack before the game. It's like another tease before the main event.

Heh, and the removal of the bandana was pretty neat. I wonder that option is actually available to us in the game (though personally I'll never remove, it's iconic).

As for the spoiler in Simo's post:

Spoiler:
Is it just me or do they look too much alike? Blegh, maybe it's because their hair looks similar.
Spoiler:
Haha, that's exactly what I thought when I first saw the screen. It's definitely the hair that's throwing me off. I also didn't figure Mei Ling to be a Navy Captain either, at least I assume that's the position she's in now.


EDIT:
Aw man, I so glad they got HGW back, he has yet again made some great contributions. Pretty much enjoying everything he's composed. Haha, and man "BB Corps" is creepy, I love how they actually added in the emotions of the unit.

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Old May 28, 2008, 08:45 PM 1 #1310 (permalink) of 1533
Haha! What the fuck? That's a pretty funny screencap. I wonder if there's a video online.
Yep there is right here:
VIDEO

Awesome thanks for the links. "Desperate Chase" is another great composition by HGW. The man can write great chase music, "Sidecar - Escape From The Fortress" and "Sidecar - On The Rail Bridge -" were my favorite tracks from MGS3 and "Desperate Chase" is easily becoming another one of my favorites. Oh and the full version of "Love Theme" is really really good too.

Man, I wish they didn't release the soundtrack before the game. It's like another tease before the main event.

Aw man, I so glad they got HGW back, he has yet again made some great contributions. Pretty much enjoying everything he's composed. Haha, and man "BB Corps" is creepy, I love how they actually added in the emotions of the unit.
Yeah but I really like Toda's tracks too. Overall the OST, at least the first disc, "Atonement" and "Father & Son" is outstanding especially in all 3 composers mix together. That's all I'll be listening to though and it's a nice treat before the game's release!

Speaking of which...I guess it was inevitable since the game is shipping to retailers June 6th but it looks like somebody as got a copy early over on GameFAQs. They've managed to post some details and screengrabs including these never before seen caps. NO SPOILERS:




Kind of a shame considering spoilers will no doubt hit everywhere which pretty much means a submergence from the internet earlier than planned. Pretty fucking bummed my EBgames isn't doing a midnight launch either..
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Old May 28, 2008, 11:39 PM Local time: May 29, 2008, 08:39 AM #1311 (permalink) of 1533
Any translation of that hebrew in lovetheme?
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Old May 29, 2008, 02:08 AM #1312 (permalink) of 1533
Love theme is fucking beautiful. Holy lord its amazing.
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Old May 29, 2008, 04:16 AM Local time: May 29, 2008, 10:16 AM #1313 (permalink) of 1533
I think the track's name "Love Theme" is something of an understatement. Don't know wether that's deliberatly done or not, but "Love Theme" sounds like "oh yeah, well, the obligatory love theme, something generic with strings". Couldn't be more misleading.

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Old May 29, 2008, 05:37 AM Local time: May 29, 2008, 02:37 AM #1314 (permalink) of 1533
Thanks for music download links, disc 1 is amazing. Mobs Alive and Desperate Chase being my favs of the disc. Love Theme is great to, i also liked the mix they used for Brawl, i guess it wouldn't be on there but i'd like to have it instead of having it loop on the Wii.

The new screen shots look beautiful as well, and WTH?! We don't start off with Octocamo? Well thats kind of weird but oh well, looks like we'll still get it pretty early anyways. As for the midnight release, no info yet from Gamestop, but i'm assuming they'll post something the week of. Also those pre-ordering through online both regular and CE of the game will ship overnight and be there on June 12th guaranteed or you get a nice refund.

Really wish i had a HDTV for the game, i was thinking about getting an HDMI to DVI cable for my flatscreen monitor cause it supports HDCP, but only problem is sound. I don't have anything or want to be using more money on something like that, i know bout Y-Cable but nothing to hook it up too. I also opted for a cheap 19" LCD HDTV thats around $279 but i'm still strapped for cash. Ah well, i'm sure it'll still be good on my standard TV, but HD looks amazing.
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Old May 29, 2008, 03:19 PM Local time: May 29, 2008, 11:19 AM