[Wii] Nintendo E3 Conference NOBODY GOES

Or today at 3 PM.

VGChartz.com | [Unconfirmed] Nintendo to unveil a game today

Maybe E3 won't be a complete waste.



Maybe.

Shin, just because most people own the games you mentioned doesn't mean that they're the only games on the system/the only good/bad games either. There's decent stuff. Hell, I play my Wii regularly.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Oh well, one good thing's come from this. Rhythm Tengoku DS is getting a US release as Rhythm Heaven.

Other junk here.

Okay, no offense, I love you and all, but you did this all wrong. It should be more like this:

Rhythm Tengoku DS is getting a US release as Rhythm Heaven.

I mean, it was only the best game ever made on the GBA. News like that shouldn't get shoveled away like it's some kind of dirty secret. The only way they could possibly blow it is if they took out the music by Tsunku(who is ♂) and localized the game with music by Timbaland and Lil Jon. Here's a video and a website designer who doesn't know how to do the ♂!

I'm also a big fan of Nintendo. But just like Omnislash said (and all the thread too), the conference this year was wrong, very very wrong.

I suppose we won't have Wave Race for Wii (not that it's the best game ever, but I like it) because it is now part of Wii Sports Resort

Were is the next big hit? T_T

BTW, now I hope deveolpers are able to use the Motion Plus thing, to have better games, real cool awesome games.

Wii Music, do we really need that weird Mario Theme remix? And stock music -.-

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp

Shin, just because most people own the games you mentioned doesn't mean that they're the only games on the system/the only good/bad games either. There's decent stuff. Hell, I play my Wii regularly.

I never said that there are no other games on Wii. All I said is that most people bought one for the novelty factor and as such will not buy any more games and as such, Nintendo ought to think about making some proper games and more to the point publicising them properly or otherwise the actual Gamers are going to desert the system and the 75% or so of Wii's that were bought for Wii Sports aren't going to generate any further software sales.

I am aware that other games exist but Nintendo's publicity machine seems obsessed with pushing the novelty ones and this E3 conference did nothing to dispel that idea.

Originally Posted by Shin

GTA DS will clearly suck massive donkey balls. What's the point of a GTA game with no blood, no swearing and no racial stereotypes? The main character will probably be fucking Mario and you have to drive around jumping on turtles or some equally banal crap like that, all the while using the stylus to draw pictures of which one you want to shoot at next and learning how to add up and cook better.

Pretty much everyone who's going to get one has a Wii now and nobody ever buys more than two games for the thing so unless they release some new hardware or start producing games that aren't Mario themed minigame-fests, Nintendo are fucked. The Wii needs a new Goldeneye and Killer Instinct to prove to people that it's more than just a joke console for drunk people and kids.

The company won't go tits up like Sega did because kids always need more DS games but the Wii is all but finished already. Every game store near me has like a one stand Wii display compared to at least 4 or 5 for every other console, including PS2. It's a remarkable achievement for a company that kicked so much ass with the SNES to fail so miserably ever since.

I agree with you. Although Nintendo is doing well with Sales, I really feel the Wii is in desperate need of some better games for Adult gamers.

Waverace would be cool, a new zelda or mario, some good RPGs. I think RPGs could be awesome with the motion controls.

None of this air drumming, frisbee throwing shit.

Originally Posted by Shin

True, but nobody has any information suggesting it will be good either. I am allowed to make predictions as much as anyone else is.

I can guarantee you that GTA DS will NOT have "Mario and you have to drive around jumping on turtles or some equally banal crap like that, all the while using the stylus to draw pictures of which one you want to shoot at next and learning how to add up and cook better."

You're allowed to make predictions, but with fucking retarded predictions like this don't be surprised when someone thinks you're full of shit.

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I have a 360 and a Wii as it happens. I like playing Wii games but it only seems to ever come out when I have mates round and we're drunk. I have never once felt the desire to play a Wii game on my own. These same mates also all own Wii's, in fact just about everyone I know owns a Wii. I am in no way suggesting that the console hasn't sold incredibly well. What I am suggesting and based on my personal experience and from reading various articles writen by market analysts and economists rather than gamers, is that most people don't buy any games for the thing. Everyone owns Wii Sports, most people also own one of Mario Party, Rayman Ravin Rabbids or Mario Olympics and literally a couple of people bought something else too.

Fair enough, you like shaking your wiimote, nobody can deny you that and at the right time, with the right people around, so do I but I only need one game to do that.

Again, you're talking from personal experience. Alot of my friends own Wii's too and alot of my friends have more than one game. In fact most of them have about 9 or 10 and not all of the are Mario minigame-fests or minigame-fests at all. SHOCK! HORROR!

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I'm taking the sales figures with a pinch of salt, knowing that a lot of software sales are tied in to new hardware purchases and that you only really get a feel for how much software is selling for a console after a couple of years. Looking at how much space is dedicated in stores to a product is a perfectly reasonable way to determine demand for a product. Big companies like GAME spend a fucking fortune on market research so they know what to stock and they stock things people are likely to buy. That they give fuck all space to Wii games suggested that they don't think many people want to buy them. That's just obvious isn't it.

It's curious, in Australia things are completely different. In most places the Wii section rivals the 360 sections, in very few stores are the sections noticably mismatched. And absolutely everywhere the Wii section giants the PS3 section available and that's including Blu-Ray DVDs which are normally stored side-by-side. So maybe your example isn't the case everywhere? But of course, that's just obvious isn't it.

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Now if you take a deep breath, stop getting so butt-hurt that someone suggested that your precious Nintendo's current business model has holes in big enough to drive through and calm down and read what I said as a rational criticism rather than a personal attack you'll see that I'm making sense.

If you had written a rational argument, I would have been able to read it and respond to it in a rational way. Instead you chose to fill it with KIDDY KIDDY KIDDY words.

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Why do you take criticism of Nintendo so personally anyway? Do you work for them or something? Am I dissing your life's work, are the harsh realities of my vision of the future going to leave you homeless and destititute? What is it?

I don't take well thought out, well written posts personally. But when staff, no less, start bashing their hands violently on the keyboard filling their posts with ignorant and childish console bashing, I get a little peeved.

Originally Posted by surasshu

The only way they could possibly blow it is if they took out the music by Tsunku(who is ♂) and localized the game with music by Timbaland and Lil Jon.

You say this as if the man behind Morning Musume is the epitome of musical genius.

I used to think Morning Musume was some sort of Japanese coffee brand. That just isn't the case. =I

Well, I guess the special secret announcement never happened, but Miyamoto did mention Pikmin... so I guess we're getting Pikmin 3 sometime in the next 6 years. As if we didn't already know that.

Originally Posted by Dhsu

You say this as if the man behind Morning Musume is the epitome of musical genius.

Compared to Lil Jon? Yes. Yes he is.

Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow

Compared to Lil Jon? Yes. Yes he is.

You take that back right now. Lil Jon's CRUNKNESS is the only thing that could save Nintendo.

Originally Posted by Watermelon Overflow

You take that back right now. Lil Jon's CRUNKNESS is the only thing that could save Nintendo.

YEAH!

Originally Posted by NovaX

I don't take well thought out, well written posts personally. But when staff, no less, start bashing their hands violently on the keyboard filling their posts with ignorant and childish console bashing, I get a little peeved.

You didn't answer my question. I was quite obviously joking when I suggested that GTADS would have Mario in (Although I stand by the point that there's be no blood or swearing in it) and regardless of how you think I'm framing the criticism, the fact remains that you're getting upset because I have a negative opinion of a piece of electronics. Not even that in fact, you're getting upset because I think the business model of a company that makes a certain type of games console and has already demonstrated it's ability to throw away vast slabs of market share, is flawed and I think they wasted an opportunity to show that they had other ideas beside Mario games and lifestyle coach accessories. Why would that annoy you? You do know that fostering irrational brand loyalty is a marketing trick right? You have given me no reasons why it upsets you that I forecast a bleak future for Nintendo, other than describing my words as "Kiddy", which coming from the boy who attempted to shout me down by typing all in capitals is pretty amusing. All I'm asking for is a calm, rational response to my question, why does it upset you that I think Nintendo should rethink their marketing strategy.

Also, I didn't realise you lived in Australia. I wouldn't have used shop displays as an example if I'd known you lived in a third world country.