Werewolf XVIII - Would you like fries with your MURDER?

Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII

And looking at it, why do you keep picking me? You quickly jumped on me when Domino voted for me yesterday, and now you're going after me once again. We don't know what Domino is either, yet you seem so quick to side with him..

He may have sided with me yesterday, but it is looking more and more likely that evil has recruited him now, and I'm not looking for an evil success here. It is best that we lynch him today before he can do any harm that he has done and so that evil do not prevail. sorry Zerg

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

Domino on the other hand is a trustworthy Risk ally. I have no idea if he's good or evil, but I will respect my unofficial NAP with him.

I'm afraid I am going to have to break the unofficial NAP with you Zerg for the good of the game. We can't be having an evil vigilante now can we?

Zergrinch, your time is up.

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

The Wolfe recruited a new member before I came out as a secret shopper. I would have otherwise been more noisy the first three days and nights, if they didn't have that ability.

This was what originally deterred me from accusing you.

Hah.. In retrospect, I don't think we should lynch Zerg. In fact, while I was the one who planted the seed of doubt, I honestly didn't plan on voting for him! I openly admit that even though my accusation sounds reasonable, it's far from concrete.

I find it highly unlikely that if Zerg was the one recruited he would choose to kill the same person as his coinciding evil team. Clearly, it would be a total waste, and I doubt even he would do it strictly to throw people off his track.

With that said, I believe we should focus on lynching someone else. Right, Rock?

Originally Posted by Plarom

I find it highly unlikely that if Zerg was the one recruited he would choose to kill the same person as his coinciding evil team. Clearly, it would be a total waste, and I doubt even he would do it strictly to throw people off his track.

That's just it, though. Zerginch didn't kill the same person as Wolfe, Inc. The Wolves were the only group who didn't attack Darkcomet, which could presumably be because they already had Zerginch doing it for them.

Oho, I didn't even realize that! *Ahem*..Forget what I said earlier, then. I'm returning to my "Zerg really IS evil" stance.

Also, I'm surprised no one has commented about yet another famed, DarkComet TRIPLE KILL.

Damn, a good point was made. Big Z didn't come out about his being a Secret Shopper until after, and Das Wolfe gets the same info as us in this game since they have no seer. Before that recruitment, there didn't seem to be enough info to point at Zerg as a Secret Shopper yet, and thus the prime candidate for recruitment. So, all that I did not consider since I thought Zerg put out his role before you got Wolfe'd.

I can then argue that Wolfe made a random recruitment, and if they got a preacher, that's kinda bad as I stated before. If they did get the Z, I see no strategical advantage for him to reveal his role as he did other than me double-thinking myself. And the revelation works out for good, so the days should go by smoothly.

I take back what I said about Zerg being worthless whether or not he was evil. I'll say that I'm not evil, but that's up to you to decide. Plarom's always evil, but why recruit a lucky stiff? Out of who's left, I'll examine the consequences of becoming a Wolfe for each of the other roles to see what needs to happen from here on out. But now, ideally we take out the Hippie.

Who's the Hippie? Rock?

EDIT: ...for now. By the way, you can't get anything from the fact Z and Wolfe made different kills; Darkcomet really could've been anything at that point. Also, at least one of Tritoch, Rockgamer, and Domino is evil; and if Z was evil as we were accusing, you sure were quick to pull the trigger on voting for him as well...

Okay Zerg, you're gonna play the 'I didn't reveal my role until after a recruitment was made' card. As far as I'm concerned, that still doesn't get you off the block.

First off, why reveal your role at all? As admitted by yourself, you did a pretty terrible job as the Vigilante, and with all the good Seers down, you could really only do worse. You had nothing to offer by revealing your role, but doing so would get you one thing: protection from the Shaman. Out of all the known good guys, the Shaman would most likely protect the one who could do the most damage, and out of you, the known preachers at the time, and a Lucky Stiff, you being the Vigilante would be the obvious choice.

Now, if I was a Vigilante who got recruited by Wolfe, wouldn't it be pretty sweet to get protection from one of my enemies? And most likely, Wolfe would want that as well. Why? Because it means even if they die, you'll most likely (nutty would have to clarify this to be sure) still retain both your original Vigilante powers and the kill for Wolfe, which would still give Evil a chance to win even if the other members of Wolfe were eliminated. You would basically have protection from the people you're killing,

And now, you admit to having a grudge against me (and for the record, I want to know which game this happened in), which is supposed to make us believe even more that you're not just saying this stuff to benefit yourself? My vote stays the same.

Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII

And most likely, Wolfe would want that as well. Why? Because it means even if they die, you'll most likely (nutty would have to clarify this to be sure) still retain both your original Vigilante powers and the kill for Wolfe, which would still give Evil a chance to win even if the other members of Wolfe were eliminated.

Wolfe's recruit retains the powers from his original role, and is also considered a full member of Wolfe, Inc. If the other members of Wolfe were killed, leaving only the recruit, the recruit could send in kills for Wolfe (he could do this even if other members of Wolfe are still alive). It's a dual role.

Quote:

After all the recent violence, Ron was taking no chances. Overnight a construction crew had erected a wall through the center of his office, with a pane of bulletproof glass separating his desk from any visitors. It was from behind this protective barrier that he summoned Zergrinch.

“I think you know why I have to let you go,” Ron began. “You've killed too many of my honest, hard-working employees, and I just can't afford to keep paying you for those kinds of mistakes. I had hopes your performance would improve after you killed that Hippie, but obviously I was wrong. You can pick up your paycheck on the way out, and then I don't want to see you in my restaurant again.”

Zergrinch pondered his situation for a moment, then answered more calmly than Ron had anticipated. “Fine by me. The service here stinks, and I don't have to be on your payroll to kill your staff.” With that, the Secret Shopper walked out of the office, and Ron breathed a sigh of relief.

Meanwhile, Tritoch was crouched behind a bush across the street from the House of Meat. In order to blend in perfectly, he had stripped naked, revealing flesh painted in complete leafy green patterns. He was indistinguishable from the surrounding foliage, which was a good thing, because the students at the all-girl middle school behind him would have been scarred for life had they been able to spy his toned buttocal area. From this vantage point he had an excellent line of sight to the front door, but as he lined up his shot he heard a twig snap behind him. Before he could turn around, a rock smashed into his skull, hurled by a shirtless protester. “I know a few things about camouflage myself,” Smelnick said to no one in particular, then he headed down the street for an afternoon donut.

Spoiler:

The House of Meat fires Zergrinch, a Secret Shopper.
Protesters kill Tritoch of Wolfe, Inc.
Juanzen, a Lardass, and Ryuu of Wolfe, Inc. are killed due to inactivity.

GAME OVER, GOOD WINS. Here's why: As Zergrinch pointed out, there are only 3 players remaining that you don't know the identity of: Domino (Wal-Mart), RockgamerXIII (Hippie and a recruit for Wolfe, Inc.), and Helloween (Shift Supervisor). Helloween is intelligent enough to realize this, and would not protect either RockgamerXIII or Domino, because they are obviously evil. RockgamerXIII, by virtue of his dual role, gets 2 kills tonight, and would take out Helloween and Domino, because those would obviously be the highest priority targets. It doesn't really matter who Domino kills, because even if RockgamerXIII survives to Day 6, then it would be obvious that he is evil, and the crowd would fire him (notwithstanding Zergrinch the Protester finishing him off). Thus, good wins.

It really sucks that evil and neutral lost thanks to the inactivity of Ryuu. Had he lived, there would have been an element of unknown left in the game, and who knows what could have happened.

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EPILOGUE

RockgamerXIII, Domino and Helloween were all killed in a cataclysmic fryer accident too horrible for words. With the competition out of the way, the House of Meat thrived, but not Ron Stephens. Six months later when a customer finally ordered Salisbury steak, the bodies he had stashed in the freezer were found, and he had a lot of difficult questions to answer. Not wanting to see their favorite eating establishment go under, Nazpyro and shadoweave pooled their money together and purchased the House of Meat, and hired Plarom as their general manager. Stop by sometime and try the food; Tuesday is 2 for 1 fried pork balls night!

Roles:

Roles
Meat Heads: Darkcomet72, Lycanthrope, Garr
Secret Shoppers: Yeldarb, Zergrinch
Shift Supervisors: Traumatized Rat, knkwzrd, Helloween
Health Inspector (Seer): Chaotic
Health Inspectors (Fool): Smelnick, Guru
Lardasses: nazpyro, Juanzen, shadoweave
Lucky Stiff: Plarom

Wolfe Inc.: Tritoch, Acro-nym, Ryuu, RockgamerXIII (recruited)
Hippies: Crash Landon, Identity Crisis, Brent, RockgamerXIII
Pothead: Kilroy

Team Wal-Mart: Domino, Dullenplain

I had the actions all typed up on my work computer, but I forgot to email them home to myself. I'll post those on Monday.

Curse your inactivity, Ryuu! Ah well, at least we got to take Zergrinch with us. Big thanks to Plarom for that, because I honestly hadn't considered using that tactic. I mean, there was a 4/5 chance of killing someone evil with us undiscovered roles, so why in the hell would you vote for Zerg? I'm honestly surprised I wasn't killed much sooner.

If only Dullenplain hadn't been killed as soon as we recruited him. Wolfe, Inc. combined with Wal-Mart would have been an unstoppable force!

I wanted to kill you Tritoch, until I remembered I didn't have a grudge against you anymore

You guys swung a very interesting lynch today, kudos. You managed to confuse quite a few people. Well done.

Had I survived the lynch and the game continued, I would have killed off Mr. RockgamerXIII tonight. Should've done that earlier but what can you do

I find it rather distressing that my last 2 votes were more accurate than my last 2 kills.

This game certainly was interesting. I know i wasn't terribly active for most of this game, but as i mentioned, my building has some serious internet issues, and my presence here isn't always certain. Also, i was pinning myself to my latest essay, so, yeah, i kinda disappeared towards the end there.

I think this might actually be the first game i survived to the end to. I'm also quite happy that i managed to thwart two killings early on. Just one thing, why did i have to die in the epilouge. I was a good guy.

Wait a sec. Nutty, you actually weighted the odds against good with TWO fools? Whuuut?

Ah, dammit. Sorry.

Maybe I should just back off Werewolf games until Winter Break or something. I was on earlier, but didn't make an effort to vote for someone and ended up forgetting after I went out.


Damn, damn. Sorry, Tritoch.

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

Wait a sec. Nutty, you actually weighted the odds against good with TWO fools? Whuuut?

Hehe, I just wanted to see how you'd do. Unfortunately, you got the Seer's check the first night (Plarom was a lucky stiff), had it confirmed the next day, and then you got cocky. Bad Secret Shopper.

You are a horrible turnip. You didn't do this to YeoldeButchere the first time around ;___;

Originally Posted by Zergrinch

You are a horrible turnip. You didn't do this to YeoldeButchere the first time around ;___;

YeOldeButchere got killed by the other Vigilante on the first night he could act, so really, why would I have wanted to be more cruel to him?