Werewolf 21: Needle in a Haystack

I'm voting for Capo, because we all know he's a magistrate because of not-voting penalties, so there's no way he could know who was who that definitively unless he was recruited by evil, and then he's lying, and this is a trick.

You'd think a fellow magistrate would at least have some faith in one of his own.

Just trust me on this one. It could break the game wide open.

Voting for Capo since he voted for me, and, as Knk pointed out, it appears that he was recruited by evil.

Capo, if you want to give any more of an explanation that "just trust me", I might change my vote. Outside of that, not likely.

The vote tally does indicate that a magistrate added two votes to good ol' Plarom.

Changing my vote to Diss if he sticks with that as it seems that knkwzrd is probably right.

Originally Posted by Lukage

Changing my vote to Diss if he sticks with that as it seems that knkwzrd is probably right.

And now Capo's being supported by Lukage, with an argument that I can't even make sense of. Changing your vote to me because Knk is probably right that Capo's evil? Do you even realize what you're typing?

I expect evil to drop the ball sometimes with their arguments, but jesus, guys. Painfully transparent. I hope the vigilante has a good idea of who to shoot for tonight for a change.

I am going to vote for identity crisis, and I might add, I was right by supporting shin last voting, whoever was accusing me of doing so. The basis of this vote, honestly I can't put this on solid evidence whatsoever, just a hunch.

My vote's for Nutty, as I've suspected him of being the necromancer for a while now.

The evidence against Capo, though circumstancial, is still pretty suspicious and demands a very good explanation - which Capo has refused to offer.

Originally Posted by Capo

Just trust me on this one. It could break the game wide open.

Ah, but for whom?

I will also throw my vote out for nuttyturnip.

Tempting though it is to vote for Dark Ice again, I've got to go with Capo this time around. It would be just like those cunning evil bastards to recruit a confirmed good character.

I'm gonna have to go with Capo on this one. He voted to lynch someone we now know was Good, he voted alongside a player who is now confirmed to have been Evil, and now he wants people to trust him without any explanation whatsoever. It definitely seems like he's been converted to Evil now.

And telling us to disregard Tafer so nonchalantly? I wouldn't be surprised if he was the head of whichever Evil team he's on. As a matter of fact, he fits all the same criteria as Capo (also voted for a Good guy, also voted alongside a Bad guy). Since he obviously would have been Evil before Capo, there's definitely a higher chance of him being a head baddie, so my vote goes to Tafer. Note that I'm willing to change it depending on whether the vote is needed to go to Capo, Garr, or Lukage.

Eh... I was debating whether this info would ultimately help or hurt, but whatever. If you're a villager that's not nutty or me, you're a true seer. I happened to check The_Griffin on night 1 as well and got that he was a vampire, but nutty chimed in first with moves to lynch him... that's why I was interested in getting him too for my own sake. (I also picked my words to hint I might be a fool then.)

Night 2 I checked StarmanDX, but it was null'd since he died.

Last night I checked Crash Landon, and "my investigation ws inconclusive" for whatever reason? Anyone know why this might be?

Until some more reasons come about, Capo.

I voted once this entire game, without even so much as reading the rest of the thread. Now, you choose to you that as evidence of my evil?

And, of course, there's the explanation for the accusation of Diss. I could call it intuition, or just a gut feeling, but that would be a lie, and that would be breaking some commandment, I'm sure. However, I'm not currently willing to reveal my source. I will tell you I'm not collaborating with any other member, if that helps things, but no more. If you'd like, you could test me in some way. Name any member and I can tell you his or her original role, just as, I'm beginning to think, all the evil members could.

But, if you choose not to trust me, and are set on voting to lynch me, I'll reveal my information anyway. Good is losing its ground faster and faster, and we need all the help we can get. If it means my death, so be it.

Originally Posted by Diss

And now Capo's being supported by Lukage, with an argument that I can't even make sense of. Changing your vote to me because Knk is probably right that Capo's evil? Do you even realize what you're typing?

I expect evil to drop the ball sometimes with their arguments, but jesus, guys. Painfully transparent. I hope the vigilante has a good idea of who to shoot for tonight for a change.

Err, you're correct. I mixed up names, that's all, I meant to say I'd be persuaded to go the way of Capo. I went back to re-read the posts and you're right that going for you doesn't seem to make sense.

Inconclusive investigations simply mean that your check was blocked by some unknown force. In Nights 0 through 2, these are because of Shaman protection. Starting Night 3, the Necromancer gets a permanent shield as well, to compensate for his team's easy-to-kill weakness.

You could kinda say everyone's role got ramped up a notch here, except for the poor Villagers (Evil can recruit, which gives a +1/-1 advantage instead of a -1; Shamans block everything, Magistrates can block/subtract on voting day...)

Ohhh, I see. I thought it was because of something else.

Originally Posted by nazpyro

Last night I checked Crash Landon, and "my investigation ws inconclusive" for whatever reason? Anyone know why this might be?

Originally Posted by zerg

Starting Night 3, the Necromancer gets a permanent shield as well, to compensate for his team's easy-to-kill weakness.

This, combined with Shin's voting for Crash, is making me rethink my vote. Capo is too smart to make a mistake as stupid as the one he seems to have made. If he has been made evil, perhaps he is trying to draw the vote away from Crash, the necromancer? Hopefully I'm not overthinking this, but I'm changing my vote to Crash Landon.

So, suppose a Fool checks a player who is not the Necromancer. Because he's the Fool, he'd see a "shield veil" even though the other person, technically, wasn't capable of obscuring his role at all, correct?

Because, goddamn, I am seeing how that may wind up screwing me through no fault of my own.

Hell, I might as well reveal my story here. It's quite interesting.

I began the game as a Good guy. I would've made one hell of a Priest.

Unfortunately, that didn't last. I was embraced as a Vampire during Night 0. I was told that the lead Vampire would contact me. I waited but it never happened, and I really had no idea what the hell I was supposed to do.

During the next night, I was still kind of clueless, as I'd been converted and ignored. I checked one person, but couldn't report my findings. I was about to ask Zerg about this but was informed that it didn't matter; I'd been saved by the Priest (The_Griffin).

This meant that I'd gone from a Priest, to a Vampire, to a Villager with no powers. I guess the lead Vampire figures I'm not a threat without any powers, so I haven't been killed even though he knows I'm Good again.

And that's where I am now. I've got nothing. I don't know who converted me to Evil because they never spoke up. I know the role of one person and I'm not about to tell Evil who that is. I'm useless. I've had two active roles taken from me, and was left with the functional role of "Bystander." I spoke to Zerg about how ridiculous that was and he said it'd get weirder if I ever discovered what my "Fool Check" is - and now I have.

So no, I'm not the Necromancer. Not even close, there. I was once a Vampire but have since been saved. I'm a crappy Villager, one who can't even rule shit out with a Fool check.

That's my story, bizarre as it is. Evil can go ahead and kill me, but to what advantage? Lynching me is kinda pointless too, but whatever. Maybe I'll become a Zombie and have a fourth role!